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01-30-2014, 01:07 AM
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That IMO would be faking or just manufacturing it. You would have to snap release, move the low point forward or both to make it work, which for me is power leak on all PAs except probably PA1 if you use it.
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01-30-2014, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by comrade
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When Mr. Kelley writes in 7-2 -4, "move the Stance Line and adjust the Knee Bend, the Waist Bend and the #3 Accumulator Angle (per 6-B-3-B) until the Left Wrist is Flat, Level and Vertical (4-0, 7-8 ) with the Clubface "Soled" and aligned per 2-J-1 and 7-6," should the words "move the Stance Line and adjust the Knee Bend, the Waist Bend" have been omitted ?
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No, why should they?
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Is there more to setting the plane angle than simply the way the club is placed, more or less, in the fingers per 6-B-3-B ?
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Yes, absolutely. Elbow Plane requires a different posture than Turned Shoulder Plane.
Originally Posted by comrade
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And if so, is it possible to change the plane angle without changing the grips placement in the fingers (more or less) and thus the Accumulator #3 angle ? It appears there is.
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No. TSP is a steeper Plane than Elbow Plane, so your Hands at Impact Fix will be higher when your Club is on the TSP. This requires more Accumulator #3 (either by changing the position of the Club in your Left Hand or by uncocking the Left Wrist) to get the Club on Plane.
Set up on Elbow Plane and take your Grip according to 7-2. Then set up on Turned Shoulder Plane and again take your Grip according to 7-2. The position of the Club in your Left Hand will be different.
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01-30-2014, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Par71
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#2 is possible, but not recommended. It would require a Cocked Left Wrist at Impact to put the Clubshaft on Elbow Plane. That would make Impact Alignments difficult to control. And it would restrain the release of Accumulator #2, resulting in a loss of power.
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Would you really "restrain" the #2 Accumulator since you would presumably be going to fully Uncocked at Follow Through. And if so would not the power loss be negligible ?
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that the real problem would be that the golf club at impact would not have the support that a level left wrist would have give it.
I think it is also worth keeping in mind this distinction about the Cocked Left Wrist: "The Wrist is Cocked at any point beyond LEVEL toward the maximum cocked condition."
So the most minimal amount of Wrist Cock is still cocked, although not Level.
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01-31-2014, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by comrade
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Would you really "restrain" the #2 Accumulator since you would presumably be going to fully Uncocked at Follow Through. And if so would not the power loss be negligible ?
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Wristcock shortens the Swing Radius. As the Clubhead moves from minimum to maximum Swing Radius, its Surface Speed increases geometrically (2-P). If the Left Wrist is still Cocked at Impact the Clubhead will have acquired less Surface Speed (MPH).
I agree with you that this effect may be negligible if the Left Wrist Cock at Impact is only minimal. It will be more pronounced if you have considerable Left Wrist Cock at Impact.
I also agree with you that a Cocked Left Wrist at Impact will generally be more detrimental to Geometry than to Physics.
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02-04-2014, 02:56 AM
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This is great stuff....all the posters on this thread
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02-05-2014, 07:24 AM
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I have a question for all...what's the rationale again for a level L wrist at impact? Why not fully uncocked? Although for me a level L wrist and full uncock is exactly the same (I don't know, I have freaky L wrist?), why aim for level L wrist when the L wrist would want always to be fully uncocked? So why not prepare for the full uncock?
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02-05-2014, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by svsvincenzo
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I have a question for all...what's the rationale again for a level L wrist at impact? Why not fully uncocked? Although for me a level L wrist and full uncock is exactly the same (I don't know, I have freaky L wrist?), why aim for level L wrist when the L wrist would want always to be fully uncocked? So why not prepare for the full uncock?
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http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread4577.html
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02-05-2014, 12:16 PM
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Thanks for the link Par71. Why should impact be before Full Extension of Primary Lever (full uncock)? At that time (impact), PA2 wouldn't matter anyway coz it's PA3 that matters (PA2 power being transferred to clubhead by PA3)?
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02-06-2014, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by svsvincenzo
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Why should impact be before Full Extension of Primary Lever (full uncock)? At that time (impact), PA2 wouldn't matter anyway coz it's PA3 that matters (PA2 power being transferred to clubhead by PA3)?
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That’s the Law of the Flail (2-K). The Clubhead is accelerating (Centrifugal Acceleration) until it becomes in line with the Left Arm (Full Extension). Then it settles into Centrifugal Momentum.
Accumulator #2 provides the Downward Motion for your Three Dimensional Impact (2-C-0).
But you are free to execute Impact during Full Extension (with an Uncocked Left Wrist). Homer said that "produces a 'soft' Impact and is very useful simplification" (2-P).
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02-06-2014, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Par71
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That’s the Law of the Flail (2-K). The Clubhead is accelerating (Centrifugal Acceleration) until it becomes in line with the Left Arm (Full Extension). Then it settles into Centrifugal Momentum.
Accumulator #2 provides the Downward Motion for your Three Dimensional Impact (2-C-0).
But you are free to execute Impact during Full Extension (with an Uncocked Left Wrist). Homer said that "produces a 'soft' Impact and is very useful simplification" (2-P).
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Law of the Flail applies to just PA2 (a Flail doesn't gave a roll/tumble), correct? And PA2 precedes and causes PA3 (Roll TRANSFER Power), correct?
So even if PA2 is spent, PA3 is still doing it's thing. So, even if you reach full extension/uncock at impact or bit before it, the sweet spot is still up to speed as PA3 (and PA4, and PA1 if you use it, as a matter of fact) isn't spent until after impact?
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