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Old 08-15-2007, 04:35 PM
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Too much extensor action?
I´ve been working on extensor action and in the beginning I was hitting really nice shots but after a while staying with focusing on extesor action my swing felt really tense and slow, so my question is can you have too much extensor action?
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Old 08-15-2007, 05:47 PM
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I´ve been working on extensor action and in the beginning I was hitting really nice shots but after a while staying with focusing on extesor action my swing felt really tense and slow, so my question is can you have too much extensor action?
Yes, I think so.


I used the analogy of a dog (right arm) running in a straight line and the leash (left arm) keeping him in check. I may be wrong but I don’t think the ‘dog’ needs to be running in place trying to escape but just have a constant and deliberate inline exertion. More like walking into a strong wind or pulling a heavy load behind you. Extensor Action snaps the left arm into being active the way a Bungee cord goes from relax to taut- not relax to double its length.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:52 PM
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I BELIEVE IT CAN BE AS STRONG AS YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH i.e as long as you keep sufficient pressure to maintain the flying wedges and a straight left arm.
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:53 PM
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I had the opportunity to spend some time with the LEGENDARY G.O.L.F. ShotoKahn Master of Disaster Eddie Cox today . . . we talked about the FROZEN even though it was 100 degrees.

If you will properly focus your attention on your FROZEN and LEVEL Bent Right Wrist . . . and LIFT the club as dead weight inertia by bending your right arm . . . YOU'LL have STRUCTURE in spades. That club don't need to be flopping around. Level is CRITICAL here. Not many people do Level . . . but you should a bit of extensor action with you Level Bent and Frozen Right Wrist will give you the structure that will accept and support Loading in bunches.

So pull that left arm for sure . . . but make sure that you understand LEVEL, BENT and Frozen.
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Old 08-16-2007, 08:55 AM
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Yes, I think so.


I used the analogy of a dog (right arm) running in a straight line and the leash (left arm) keeping him in check. I may be wrong but I don’t think the ‘dog’ needs to be running in place trying to escape but just have a constant and deliberate inline exertion. More like walking into a strong wind or pulling a heavy load behind you. Extensor Action snaps the left arm into being active the way a Bungee cord goes from relax to taut- not relax to double its length.

I think because of the way the left shoulder joint naturally works, the dog would never be left running in place (he'd run in circles - hinge action). The dog is the pull.

So I'd lean to saying you can't have too much extensor action. The "problem" of "too much extensor action", probably, in reality, is a left arm that is not properly left alone to be inert or a piece of rope. I'd say you need all the properly produced structure you can get (by stretching the left arm).
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:00 AM
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I think because of the way the left shoulder joint naturally works, the dog would never be left running in place (he'd run in circles - hinge action). The dog is the pull.

So I'd lean to saying you can't have too much extensor action. The "problem" of "too much extensor action", probably, in reality, is a left arm that is not properly left alone to be inert or a piece of rope. I'd say you need all the properly produced structure you can get (by stretching the left arm).
Wouldn't too much extensor action impede a player from swinging the left arm freely from it's socket?
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:29 AM
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Wouldn't too much extensor action impede a player from swinging the left arm freely from it's socket?

I would not think so. You are only stretching the left arm via the right hand.
Stretch all you want but the joint structure will still be in place. The shoulder joint has no choice but to do its thing. What would impede the left arm is lack of extensor action - with lack of, the left arm would collapse - centainly discouraging a swinging left arm. Also, a non-inert left arm would certainly interfere with the natrual action of the left shoulder joint.

With extensor action the left arm is acted on.

Stretch the leash as much as possible (even if made out of a steel beam), if attached to a hinge, it will still swing, but with more structure, it will resist collapse, especially when something at its end hits another object (say for example, a golf ball).

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Old 08-16-2007, 10:41 AM
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When I wrote 'running in place' I only meant (trying to stay with the dog thing) that the pull was extreme and reckless.

A brand new rubber band is a circle- hold on part of it with two fingers (the left shoulder) and pull the other side (right arm) and it becomes two parallel lines- that is what extensor action is.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:02 AM
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bmike View Post
When I wrote 'running in place' I only meant (trying to stay with the dog thing) that the pull was extreme and reckless.

A brand new rubber band is a circle- hold on part of it with two fingers (the left shoulder) and pull the other side (right arm) and it becomes two parallel lines- that is what extensor action is.
Any pull (of the dog) has nothing to do with extensor action - a pull that is extreme suggests an active left arm (over acceleration) - not extensor action.
If you are referring to the pull as the stretch produced by the right hand - how can the stretch be too extreme? The hinge will direct the force. If your trying to hit a ball with any part of a lever that is a rope, you'd certainly want to stretch the rope as much as possible to provide structure, prevent collapse.

As for the rubber band, if the the assembly was attached to a hinge, you'd want an intense stretch just so hinge action could take place. (difference of force - cetrifugal or muscular, acting on a limp vs taught rubber band). With no stretch, hinge action would go awry. But this has no bearing on whether the stretch can be too much.

If indeed too much stretch can mess up the hinge or joint structure, I'd say you could have to much. But for all purposes, I don't think this is possible.

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