LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Hook, line, & sinker? Thread: Hook, line, & sinker? View Single Post #44 11-06-2005, 04:14 PM ChrisNZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 132 Late post Originally Posted by Mike O Looks like Immanuel Kant is now posting on the forum- (had to point that out for those philosophy students - couldn't resist.) Mike O. yes, but are we talking about the swing as a thing-in-itself, or merely it's appearance? Now stop critiquing my pure reason!!! Originally Posted by Mike O Anyway, back to golf: I wouldn't agree that the right shoulder is back on Plane at the both arms straight - Follow Through position. For example, at impact the right shoulder is usually significantly off the plane- but the right forearm is on plane - as the right arm is bent. From impact to follow-through the hands stay on plane and the right arm becomes straight- but during that period from impact to follow-through the right shoulder doesn't drop down to the plane to create the straight right arm, rather the elbow comes up off the plane until the right arm is straight. So during release the right elbow is below plane, at impact it is on plane and during the follow-through it is above plane. Mike O. What does this do to the magic of the right forearm - how can the right forearm trace if the right elbow is off plane? Or does the right elbow (and hence forearm) move through multiple planes, but remain on (a) plane to the plane's baseline (that really does sound like Kant!) By the way Mike, I usally find your posts pretty phenomenal... noumenal even! Chris ChrisNZ View Public Profile Send a private message to ChrisNZ Find all posts by ChrisNZ