LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Does anybody own a Flail? Thread: Does anybody own a Flail? View Single Post #9 01-22-2006, 08:05 PM Yoda Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 10,681 Homer Kelley and the Facts Originally Posted by tongzilla ... let me raise another point. Homer also said lie angle doesn't matter... Now I know some very knowledgeable people (i.e. has knowledge in TGM and clubfitting) who disagree with that. Careful, here, Leo. I spent a week personally with Homer Kelley and a year or so on the phone with him on both sides of that week. Further, I have on disc all three of his GSEM (Golf Stroke Engineering Master) Classes (some eighty hours of audio recordings). In all that experience, I have yet to hear the words you have attributed to him. He has said that the cambered iron sole and the ever-ready Right Forearm permits positioning between the various Planes, but he never said "Lie angle doesn't matter." In fact, Club Guru Ralph Maltby was in one of his early 'lecture series' classes (arranged by Ben Doyle for interested professionals), and he showed Homer the now familiar club-with-rod-extending- from-the-Clubface to illustrate how lie angle affects Clubface alignment. Homer was impressed with this visual, and he noted the demonstrated fact in 2-D-0: "Tilting the Leading Edge changes the Clubface alignment. Up--to the left. Down--to the right. Merely deviating from the Address Plane Angle will do this by tilting the Clubshaft." More and more I see personal agendas being promoted -- not yours -- with unchallenged, unsubstantiated statements such as "Homer said this or Homer said that and this particular tour player is obviously not doing this or that." Or "Lynn teaches only this kind of student in only this way or that." Or hypotheticals such as "If Homer was still alive he would change his thinking because of this or that." Or even "If Homer was teaching in a driving range setting he wouldn't be successful because of this or that." To all of which I say... First, ignore the hypotheticals. As to the statements of 'fact:' Consider the source. Demand proof. Homer did. And so do I. __________________ Yoda Yoda View Public Profile Send a private message to Yoda Visit Yoda's homepage! Find all posts by Yoda