[jim_0068]

You can not mix the patterns at the range in a limited fashion...it takes a committment over a long period of time to the see the real benefits of a pattern...I believe any of you who have been with TGM long enough and have tried to develop the stroke pattern/component approach...in most cases it can take years to develop a pattern and a lifetime of keeping the pattern in check.

...of course humans stick to what their use to....hmmmmm it's only human.

The comment on less pivot and more right forearm....what is that.

It takes time to develop the muscles of the right forearm and arm...the hips don't provide power...they maintain speed.

DG

DG

I don't understand your post. I said that both patterns are equally as accurate and powerful for me. Which means with both of the patterns i was producing the same speed and the same impact alignments. Why would i need a "long committment" to see the benefits when I already have? I have experimented and swung (a little incorrectly) with the Tomasello pattern fora while. Recently through a post of yours i noticed i did something wrong. After this change it allowed me to correctly do the pattern as Tommy would want and then i saw the results which were just as good as my pattern.

If the pattern that i worked on hard for almost a year now works just as good as Tommy's way, why would i change to a whole new pattern instead of just constantly maintaining my own just like i'm sure you do yours?

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My comment on less/more pivt and less/more right arm is in relation to the two distinct patterns.

In the pattern i currently use, i use a very strong pivot motion to carry the power package into impact and i try to create (through pivot thrust as i call it or pivot power, pivot speed whatever anyone wants) as much CF to create throwout action and speed. To do this you have to have very passive and inert arms and "spin the flywheel," meaning the right shoulder downplane.

In Tomasello's pattern the body is much more quiet and the right arm/forearm is much more active. I am simply replacing the amount of 'pivot thrust' (as i call it) with the un-cocking motion of the right arm (magic of the right forearm). When done correctly i get the same type of power and accuracy, i'm simply producing my alignments and "force" or "speed" in a different manner.

Not necessarily better, it's just different and works better for me and i see no reason to change my entire pattern for the same results.

TGM is all about finding the pattern that works for you and i have found that. So i still tinker and wanted to give the Tomasello pattern a significant try to determine the results. It is a valid pattern that works wonderful, i just don't choose to use it because i already have a pattern for me.