[Mike O]

Martee:

Brian Manzella talks about this in one of his videos. In hitting, Brian talks about resisting the turning of the forearm on the backswing by trying to keep it perpendicular to the plane. But his pivot makes it look like the forearm has rotated. In swinging there is a 1/4 turn of the forearm so the left hand faces the plane on the backswing.

I probably butchered it but thats what I remember.

Terry

Terry, who knows, you may have indeed "butchered it", but I actually think that your comments above are commonly seen floating around TGM circles.

For those that are interested or trying to "get there"- a couple of thoughts:
1) Nothing in the Golfing Machine describes anything actually turning a 1/4 of a turn
2) If there is somewhere in the book where he describes "the left wrist facing the plane"- then can someone find it in the book, post it, and let's discuss it.
By the way, I think both of the above have the same thing in common- those searching for simplicity- and something specific, in the wrong place at the wrong time. Or stated differently, trying to make a principle where one doesn't exist.

On a completely different note:
My recommendation is to study and learn the book as well as possible- during that process you'll certainly feel that "this is it" and "nobody else knows what their talking about", but ultimately the "Golfing Machine" won't be something different or better than your golf movement or better than someone elses golf movement. It won't be an accumulator or a lever assembly, it will just be your golf movement which you will have a better understanding of fixing or keeping on track if you need to make an adjustment. I think that's what Homer had in mind, besides categorizing and describing the golf movement in Geometrical and Physics terms and then having the player translate that precision into feel- he wanted to have a coherent explanation of any and all swings- that includes the one you're making today- so the Golfing Machine really describes what you're doing today and also how to make it better. For myself I always like to keep it in those terms- otherwise, sometimes I feel like "an octopus or a thing from outer space"- if I am trying to "literally" apply a "Golf Machine" concept - inappropriately. It can be a great book - for "overcooking" your application. But you can't skip that phase of the understanding process either- cause then you would just gloss over it and not really dig it out. OK, now I'm incoherently rambling........- and I'm about ready to hit the delete button because who really wants to hear this- be I'll let it stand.
Mike O.