[Bagger Lance]

Nuke,

I finally managed to get your video message working. Thanks for clarifying your theory about extensor action in hitting and swinging.

I don't completely agree with your view on the roll of extensor action in swinging. As I mentioned before, Extensor Action is the same for both hitting and swinging. It is only concerned with the arms, not the clubshaft. From a limited standpoint, you can use extensor action with pp#3, but it's use is generally for chip shots. Better off reserving #3 for sensing clubhead lag.

At the top, elbow position is based on the loading. The load is always behind the shaft. Swingers and hitters differ in their loading hence the elbow positions are different, but the load is still directly behind the shaft for both.

Through release, elbow position "effect" is more about hand motion. If the right palm is facing up during release, the forearm/elbow is more pitch. If the right palm is facing the ball, the punch elbow is "in effect".

The pitch/punch elbow release effects are usually a result of the 4-D-0 hand motions of swingers and hitters during release. Swivel and Roll or lack thereof.

This is all in preparation for supporting lag pressure, behind the shaft, through impact.

Again, I really like your thinking and attempt to sort these things out. Let the incubator take over and the answers will come.

Oh, and I wouldn't ever humilate you. You have to exceed my total post number before becoming a target and so far, only one guy is in my crosshairs. (Here comes another Public Group joke). I can read him like a book.

Besides, you're too nice of a guy.