[Mike O]

Mike,

Did not realise its off topic .. he he ...

Nuke,
As I said before, my issue wasn't that you were off topic, but that you covered too many issues and I wasn't necessarily following any of them that well. That may be my problem in understanding and not yours. But if we are going to have a "true" debate- and make any headway - we each need to understand what the other person is saying.

For me, Intelligent disagreement is an exciting thing to have- because it always holds the opportunity for learning, growth, etc. My previous post had some questions that I was hoping that you would answer which would help me understand one of your points- but you can let it fade away into the sunset if you want .. he he ...