LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Quiet Knees and Feet Thread: Quiet Knees and Feet View Single Post #2 11-22-2007, 11:19 AM gmoney_69 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern Vermont Posts: 33 Knees, Hips, and Shoulders In Homer Kelley's notes posted in this forum he states, "Leading the Backstroke with Hip Action is Pivot Controlled Hands." The Hip Action in your Stroke Pattern is based upon the chosen Component for YOUR Total Motion. Not, what someone says on a forum, i.e., "you start the backswing with a sharp turn of the right hip behind you." I'm not saying, though, that you were following this advice, just that there is not one specific way for everybody. Per 7-15, Hip Action, "The work the Hip Action does, is to lead and pull the Shoulders back and down in varying combinations." and "Hip Action must not be haphazard. It is a Pivot Component that must be carefully timed and sequenced to sustain the continuity and spacing of the Pivot Train (of Components)." Per 7-14, Hip Turn, "The Hip Turn as a Stroke Component is, per 10-14, the product of Knee Bend and the Waist Bend." and "Except for its being, in itself, the Weight Shift, the Hip Turn is a motion permitting --rather than causing-- the other effects, actions, and motions of the Pivot." So, Hip Turn defines motion and Hip Action defines work. Now, all this related to the Knees by 7-16, Knee Action, "Knee Action is classified on the basis of (1) combination of bent and straight conditions and (2) the Reference Points selected at which these combinations occur. The combination selected will determine the slanting of the Hips during the Pivot.", "The slant of the Hips affects the degree of Hip Turn." The point of this long-windedness of my part has been to show the relations between Knees, Hips, and Shoulders that you have found in your swing. And to say that you should choose the compatible Components for your Stroke Pattern that work for your Total Motion. So, I would say your on the right track. If the "quiet knees and feet" are providing the results you are looking for. Pick the Components that provide this result and properly incorporate them into your Stroke. By defining your Stroke Pattern you can also have a reference to look to if your having problems. This can help you to zero in on the point in your stroke which is causing your stroke to 'go south'. Hopefully, these thoughts will help you find YOUR way to the Stroke that is best for you. And always remember as Homer says in his introduction, "This textbook can support individual "MY Way" procedures but no "THE Way" theory". gmoney_69 View Public Profile Send a private message to gmoney_69 Find all posts by gmoney_69