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Old 11-17-2009, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Both halves being release of #2 and #3, Delivery Line referring to clubhead. Arc of Approach or Angle of Approach.
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2-J-3 VISUAL EQUIVALENTS Delivery Paths (7-23) guide the Hands but Delivery Lines are needed to guide the Clubhead and the Right Forearm (5-0). The true geometric Plane Line is the Basic Delivery Line.
Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
The Left Arm is not on the Inclined Plane (see photo 10-13-D #2) , unless #3 angle is zeroed either by gripping the club along the life line as in putting or when the left wrist is fully uncocked, post impact. The Left Arm is on the Plane of the Left Arm Flying wedge however. The vertical plane, the plane of the left wrist cock and uncock. The Left Wrist is geometrically flat only, not literally flat. But Cocking and Uncocking of the Left Wrist seems to me to be done on the Inclined Plane.
Photo 10-13-D #2: The Left Arm is not on the Inclined Plane and Neither is the Flat Left Wrist. This is because the Shoulders and Arms are Turned to the Plane. But the Clubshaft is On Plane.

This is about Release Motions and concerns the Left Arm Wedge Location and Angle where Release is Concerned.

Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
I realize the inconsistency here. Its still in the incubator for me. I can only say that the cocking and uncocking is along the Inclined Plane and at whatever Plane Angle that may be, given shifting. Meaning shifts dont make plain line compliance, tracing or on line release difficult to my mind.
You can't win tournaments if you bend the delivery line. I'm serious. You don't have a problem with bending the plane line. But do you know what you do that solves the problem?

In the above paragraph, you said that "Cocking and Uncocking is along the Inclined Plane". That's exactly as it should be except replace "Plane" with "Delivery Line".

So, for swingers that have swiveled to plane on the backstroke, you would also agree that if your Left Arm pointed inside the Plane Line (Left Arm Wedge) then you need to Bend your Left Wrist so that your Clubshaft will be on plane when you Cock and Uncock?

Hitters using a Single wrist action downstroke don't have this problem. .......... But a Single Wrist Action On Plane Release is a mind numbing experience to visualize and execute without a Plane Board for training. AND, you can't "Swing" a Single Wrist Action On Plane Release (not without other problems). It requires Right Arm Thrust down the Angle of Approach. ..........Hmm? Maybe that's the simplest procedure of all. ...... Imagine the complexity of holding the left wrist vertical and yet keeping the shaft on plane during release.


Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
I realize that given this riddle you have chosen the other way round. The uncocking is along the plane of the LFFW. Meaning the left hand is not on the inclined plane and neither is the clubshaft, nor any release motions.
I say that Cocking and Uncocking should be executed on the Plane of the Left Arm Wedge with a Flat Left Wrist, as does TGM. I also say that the TSP simplifies the procedure because the flat left wrist exists throughout the swing. I also say that for swingers not using the TSP, need a more complex way of uncocking on plane so as not to bend the delivery line during the first half of the release sequence. And I say that Bending the Left wrist is the "more complex way". I also say that it's perfectly suitable and has been adopted and proven in competition.


Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
My head hurts again.
I keep a bottle of Advil on my desk.


Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
But Im a Hitter, or a Swinger with thoughts primarily of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its frozen right hand staying on the plane the right wrist bend at all times and the pp#3 tracing. Its easier on my brain.
I don't think that Hitters have this same problem. As long as a Hitter thrusts the right forearm down the Angle of Approach, and uses a Single Wrist Action Downstroke, bending the delivery line shouldn't be an issue once a level of proficiency is reached. In this regard, Hitting is a superior procedure because no matter what the plane angle, right forearm thrust uncocks the flat left wrist On Plane. I hate to admit it.

More trade-offs. Hit or Swing.

Last edited by Daryl : 11-17-2009 at 03:32 PM.
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