[wanole]

Originally Posted by wanole

As for aiming point. I always thought it was out in front of the ball, but I then see Doyle putting the aiming point out in front of the left foot. Is this right?

Wanole,

I addressed a similar question in the thread accompanying the first Ben Doyle video. I've reprinted that response below.

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You have referred to two different Aiming Points. Both accomplish the desired Impact Hand Location, one directly and the other indirectly.

The first is the direct approach and refers to Ben's use of the term 'Aiming Point' as it relates to the Hands. He has defined this as the Line of Sight through the Impact Hand Location to a point well in front of the Ball (and even the Left Foot). I have not personally talked with Ben about this, but I believe this Line of Sight could be further defined as that spot on the Plane Line where the Right Forearm points at Impact. This, in turn, defines the Right Forearm Angle of Approach,that relationship established at Impact Fix of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge to the Ball and to the Plane Line. It is this alignment that the Forearm must leave and then precisely return.

The second refers to the Aiming Point as defined in The Golfing Machine. This is the Aiming Point of the Thrust, usually the Ball (with a five-iron) or just slightly in front of it (shorter Clubs) or behind it (longer Clubs). It is mandatory for the control of the Snap Releases (which happen so fast it is impossible to actually monitor the Impact Hand Location). This Line of Thrust technique automatically drives the Hands toward their Impact Fix Location and is thus the indirect equivalent of the Impact Hands Location procedure.

ok thanks. So as a swinger what should I focus on to make sure my
hands finish ahead of the ball while pivoting past the ball?
I was hitting fat shots (assume from throwaway) when working on holding the angle
on the way thru like Ben was teaching. I'm trying to educate my hands, but I
guess I can't educate if I don't know where to educate them too.

As a swinger I don't really thrust anything, right? I would love to take my "hitting" motion out of my swing and just let CF take over, but to be honest (after playing for 20 yrs) after
just turning the hips to start the downswing I get kind lost. I subconciously
hit at the ball with my hands on the way down. Should I just relax my hands an fling them thru impact with the pivot?

When I do retain some kind of angle the hosel is meeting the ball first. Am I holding it too long? I would like to have a snap release since I am a swinger and want to take teh hitting
motion/feeling out of my swing.

Thanks

Joe