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Old 02-25-2007, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke View Post
Homer said, "I think Basic Motion is going to be bigger than the book."

Everyone's different. But, I strive to truly know my students. If our goals are the same, then no one is disappointed. I think that everyone that takes lessons from me knows that I care about them, I want them to get better, and I take as much delight in their success as they do.

There are those that want a "tip" to hit it better in the Club Championship which, by the way, starts tomorrow. And, there are those that understand that it will take time and effort to make a substantial change. If I had a dime for everyone that said, "I don't want to change my swing. But, I sure would like to play better.", I could retire.

I am brutally honest with those that don't listen to my advice about proper practice. I tell them that they are welcome to stay vested in MY retirement plan. They are more than welcome to keep coming every week, wasting money, just to listen to me talk. Or, they can take my advice and reap the benefits. Usually, they choose the latter.

Yes, yourself and Yoda are great teachers, but are higher handicap players tough to teach for you guys? Or even worse how about the guys who think they can really play, but the only course they can play is there home course?

Preaching to the choir is the feeling that I seem to get a lot of the time.

Such a thing like Basic Motion seems so easy to me, yet these people seem like they have a better chance of winning the powerball, than preforming a great Basic Motion stroke five times consecutively.
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Old 02-25-2007, 07:25 PM
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A teacher can only point the way- the student needs to grab the reins.

Basic Motion is so easy, yet... do it, study it and everything will crystallize. It ain't a waggle- it's a motion. Ben Doyle's chip, pitch and Punch starts every session. That's Basic, Acquired and a Punch.

I have seen AI's work with Pros or advanced players who listen with half an ear, providing nothing back to the instructor, just hoping to get a tip or a position change. I have seen Lynn work with a tour guy that might just be one of his best students- not because of ability but for his sponge- like qualities.
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Old 02-25-2007, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ndwolfe81 View Post
Yes, yourself and Yoda are great teachers, but are higher handicap players tough to teach for you guys? Or even worse how about the guys who think they can really play, but the only course they can play is there home course?

Preaching to the choir is the feeling that I seem to get a lot of the time.

Such a thing like Basic Motion seems so easy to me, yet these people seem like they have a better chance of winning the powerball, than preforming a great Basic Motion stroke five times consecutively.
I'm not blowing smoke when I say that I really enjoy what I do. I just look for improvement in everyone.

I've had two guys that have given me updates in the last few months that have broken into the 70's. Each of them began with me a few years ago, and both were shooting in the 120's before we met. I would consider both of them to be very good students/listeners. They followed our plan for improvement (Basic Motion/Acquired Motion/Total Motion ) precisely.

A couple of weeks ago, I gave a private school to two guys in West Palm Beach. One was 87 years old, and he was terribly depressed. He couldn't play with his buddies anymore, because his game had really deteriorated. I just spoke to his son-in-law today. And, he has been playing often, with better results than he's had in years. In fact, he beat his son-in-law who's more than a few decades younger.

The ones that think they can play (dressed like a Tour player and can't break 90) are always entertaining. If they truly want change, they're just as willing to do the work. If they just want the look, anyone can buy a Polo and a staff bag.

The Tour players are easy. They can do anything that you ask.
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:00 PM
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I like this thread, as I am a "hacker" who struggles with my game, and have had a bunch of conventional instruction with very little improvement. It's interesting to hear instructors talk about the frustration from their side.

I would gladly do hours of basic motion, but I am never completely sure if I am doing it correctly. how can I be sure that I am?

Secondly, I haven't completely grasped the relationship between basic motion (back two feet, forward two feet) and the other aspects of TGM, that being the up and down (out and forward) of the acquired and total motion. I have watched the LB/JH videos, and that has been somewhat helpful, but I seem to have a pretty thick coconut. How do I build on the lessons of basic motion to improve the full swing?

Thanks.
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:22 PM
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I like this thread, as I am a "hacker" who struggles with my game, and have had a bunch of conventional instruction with very little improvement. It's interesting to hear instructors talk about the frustration from their side.

I would gladly do hours of basic motion, but I am never completely sure if I am doing it correctly. how can I be sure that I am?

Secondly, I haven't completely grasped the relationship between basic motion (back two feet, forward two feet) and the other aspects of TGM, that being the up and down (out and forward) of the acquired and total motion. I have watched the LB/JH videos, and that has been somewhat helpful, but I seem to have a pretty thick coconut. How do I build on the lessons of basic motion to improve the full swing?

Thanks.
You are working on the same impact alignments with basic motion as you are total motion. The same compression and you are training yourself and your hands not to throw the club, instead the hands moving make the club head arrive to the ball and past the ball, into the ground. The reward is the sound and the feeling of compression.

Watch Jeff Hull and Lynn in the video section, and you should pick it up.

I just don’t see how a guy can hit a total motion eight iron somewhat decent, but try to get some good quality basic motion out of him and look out, FLIP! SCOOP! FLENCH! SKULL! CHUNK!

It is like forget this let me keep fighting club head throwaway.
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:38 PM
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Do y'all think that the Flat Left Wrist in the Basic Motion is the SAME Flat Left Wrist in Total Motion? This question is more geared toward the Swinger. The Hitter basically maintains the Impact Alignments in his Hands regardless of the length of the motion . . . The Swinger however has MUCH MORE going on as the motion gets longer.
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Do y'all think that the Flat Left Wrist in the Basic Motion is the SAME Flat Left Wrist in Total Motion? This question is more geared toward the Swinger. The Hitter basically maintains the Impact Alignments in his Hands regardless of the length of the motion . . . The Swinger however has MUCH MORE going on as the motion gets longer.
I am not meaning that the student is preforming a correct total motion, but it seems that they have better luck with a larger motion in general, when compared to a basic motion stroke.

Maybe it is the quality of the student or could be more likely the instructor!

But I am always trying to get them on the road to great golf.
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Thanks. Flench? I might be guilty of that. Chances are your student that can hit a decent 8 iron doesn't know what throwaway is. The terms, terminology and essential truth are what appeals to me about TGM. I am just struggling to implement.

Drewit, we're going to spend some time together this summer! (did you just flench when you read that?)
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