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Old 04-17-2007, 09:50 AM
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I don't know why this brothers me, but it really does. Where in the book does he state that the Aiming Point is 4 inches?

I must have missed it. I beleive he starts on p 37 about aiming point. There is one place on pg 38 he states about its' exactness or preciseness doesn't have to be 4 inches, which the 4 inches is in reference to the bottome of swing (Low Point). On pages 40,50,51,59 and 201 he identifies/defines Aiming Point and again no 4 inches.

Can someone help me out here cause for whatever reason this is getting to me. This is poping up across all forums and no one seems to have identified the exact quote. Maybe it is a bit awkward wording in one area of the text but within the book, after reading it, if anyone still has the idea that he is talking about 4 inches for the Aiming Point, well I don't know.

A little help or can we put this to rest that he doesn't say that?
I don't think Clampett says that the Aiming Point is 4 inches in front of the ball. But radlink54 read it that way. I could see how a person could get confused by reading the Aiming Point and "swing bottom" passages in the book. I don't think Clampett has misrepresented it necessarily but it is confusing particularly if this is your first exposure to the concept.

Don't get me wrong. There is A LOT in this book to like. I just think that part is a bit foggy.

What do you think about the whole "keep the left wrist cocked as long as you can" thing?

I don't want to poor mouth Clampett. I think he's good for the Machine, good for the game and miles ahead of 98% of the instruction books out there. I'm just trying to be objective.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:06 AM
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Keeping the wrist cocked, read very careful as he did not say force it to remain cock, he stated let the pivot transport and lateral/rotational motion uncock it.

This book is about swing styles, there are areas that don't track for hitting styles IMO.

I think some TGM circles will have issues in the lack of preciseness that they often equate with TGM.

As I read it, Clampett was quite clear that this wasn't about styles and their variations. I think many will have trouble making and maintaining this paradigm shift.

He does offer some style/variation suggestions, but the concept of The Impact Zone is to stop being ball focused, compress the ball with power, and sound alignments.

Aim Point and Swing Bottom getting confused appears to be that not uncommon or we have a few people going around and spreading the word cause I was surprised that I have seen this on almost every forum where they are reviewing the book. As I have given reference to pages, I am surprised that there can be confusion, my only conclusion is that they are skim or speed reading and not really reading. But I could be wrong

I am not sure I agree that Clampett is good for the Machine, but I do think Clampett is good for Golf with this book.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:14 AM
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One part of the book was particularly enlightening for ME, the concept of cocking the left wrist.

I have been so focused on a flat left wrist that on video my wrist is arched big time at the top of the swing with no wrist cock. I think this also goes back to keeping the left wrist flat and "dynamically flat" that 12pb educated me on a few weeks ago. By consciously trying to just let the left wrist be cocked by the right elbow. I have made some progress, we'll see how it goes.

I personally like the book and like how Clampett presents the Machine. Especially, the idea of looking past "stylistic" stuff and focusing solely on the dynamics.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:17 AM
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Martee, in your opinion, why is Clampett not good for TGM? Not trying to flame or anything, I would just like to know. Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:28 AM
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I like the book and will be giving it as a gift
This is one of the few golf books (and I have them all) that I would buy for my friends. Good information that no one else outside of TGM discusses much but they should.

I have gotten through the book once (got it last Saturday) and plan to get through it again this week.

I love it. His explaination of aiming point is great and Clampett is quick to point out those that provided his training (Ben, Chuck, etc).

Good read. Highly recommended.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:08 PM
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Just got the book. It could have used more pictures. Also, his description of aiming the hands 4" in front of the ball is somewhat mystifying. At address for chipping, the hands are already at least 4" in front.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:23 PM
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He doesn't describe aiming the hands 4" in front of the ball.
The 4" measurement is related to middle of divot / lowpoint not aiming point.
I agree with you it is a little confusing, but he does not state that.
he believes aiming point must be experimented with to find Your aiming point.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by woodandcoal View Post
He doesn't describe aiming the hands 4" in front of the ball.
The 4" measurement is related to middle of divot / lowpoint not aiming point.
I agree with you it is a little confusing, but he does not state that.
he believes aiming point must be experimented with to find Your aiming point.
Aiming Point is effected by the type of release and the golfer's hand speed, ball position, and club length. Experiment with those factors. Direct pp3 thrust to the aiming point and HIT DOWN. The clubhead will Lag behind the Hands and strike the ball.
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I don't think Clampett says that the Aiming Point is 4 inches in front of the ball. But radlink54 read it that way. I could see how a person could get confused by reading the Aiming Point and "swing bottom" passages in the book. I don't think Clampett has misrepresented it necessarily but it is confusing particularly if this is your first exposure to the concept.

Don't get me wrong. There is A LOT in this book to like. I just think that part is a bit foggy.

What do you think about the whole "keep the left wrist cocked as long as you can" thing?

I don't want to poor mouth Clampett. I think he's good for the Machine, good for the game and miles ahead of 98% of the instruction books out there. I'm just trying to be objective.
Thanks 12 piece. Sorry Martee. Not trying to falsely claim Clampett says aim point=low point=4inches. Just trying to understand better. I guess my question was based on a picture in the book where the white line is drawn from the top or end of backswing to a point in front of the ball. Also the picture where he says "yes my eyes are looking in front of the ball" about 4 inches out.
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