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05-12-2007, 11:40 AM
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Dr. Doolittle, is that a Pushmepullyou?
It can't be done successfully or to any advantage.
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05-12-2007, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf
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It can't be done successfully or to any advantage.
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The question was "Is it possible...?" not "Is it advisable...?"
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05-12-2007, 06:27 PM
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Lee Trevino pulled with his last 3 fingers and nobody here will call him a swinger.
I would just go out on a limb here and say there are very few pure swingers on the PGA tour, but alot of horizontal hinge action.
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05-12-2007, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KnighT
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Lee Trevino pulled with his last 3 fingers and nobody here will call him a swinger.
I would just go out on a limb here and say there are very few pure swingers on the PGA tour, but alot of horizontal hinge action.
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There is a pull at the start of the down swing for a Hitter to set up the radial pushing action. I think when folks speak of pulling and pushing at the SAME time - it is at release.
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05-12-2007, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KnighT
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I would just go out on a limb here and say there are very few pure swingers on the PGA tour, but alot of horizontal hinge action.
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No doubt about that!
There is very few pure anything. If there were this place would be pretty quiet. 
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05-12-2007, 08:54 PM
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Maybe it depends on what you're pushing. What I mean is, if you're pushing against pp1 (as a swinger) instead of the club, then aren't you just further accelerating the left arm, and thus still swinging via cf? In that case, you aren't accelerating the club both radially and in a linear fashion simultaneously, even if you feel a pull and push simultaneously, right?? I believe someone posted something to that effect here before, but I'm not sure.
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05-12-2007, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigwill
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Maybe it depends on what you're pushing. What I mean is, if you're pushing against pp1 (as a swinger) instead of the club, then aren't you just further accelerating the left arm, and thus still swinging via cf? In that case, you aren't accelerating the club both radially and in a linear fashion simultaneously, even if you feel a pull and push simultaneously, right?? I believe someone posted something to that effect here before, but I'm not sure.
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You would be hitting /switting
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05-12-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by neil
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You would be hitting /switting
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Just because the Right Arm is straightening thru the shot- it doesn't mean that you are using an active #1 Acc and pushing the club as you 'throw-out' the clubhead. You can not NOT have a right arm not drive, even a passive one.
I think a 4barrel Swing is the FEEL of flipping the right hand perfectly at impact. Very controlled throw-Away. And we know the tour guys are masters at throw-Away. We aren't close.
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05-13-2007, 08:53 AM
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After further review...
Originally Posted by strav
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The question was "Is it possible...?" not "Is it advisable...?"
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Strav, when I wrote:
It can't be done successfully or to any advantage. I did not mean to imply it can't be done (impossible).
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05-13-2007, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf
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Strav, when I wrote:
It can't be done successfully or to any advantage. I did not mean to imply it can't be done (impossible).
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So should Kebeal’s answer to the person who asked him is it possible to pull and push the club through impact at the same time be ‘yes - but it is not advisable’?
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