Facts and Illusions ya got to love it...............
DG
Yes- Love them.
Here are two quotes concerning the videos tapes from another Tom Tomasello student who by his account, studied with him longer than anyone else on this forum:
“The true "illusions" that I see are reflected in Tom's "feels" versus what is actually happening.
His narrative and his full speed motion are completely at odds with each other.”
But.... that said. I Totally agree with the next quote from the same former student and now well respect instructor:
What he does leave us with, is a wonderful swinging motion completely subservient to centrifugal force. The full lever extension, sequenced release, left wrist going from cocked, to level, to uncocked, and the right wrist going from level to uncocked are textbook. The Law of the Flail, rhythm, definition of keeping the club on plane, the Flying Wedges, the three imperatives are ALL here! Pay heed all of you swingers! Thanks Tom for all of your enthusiasm, devotion, and your wonderfully infectious manner.
My problem is with YOU and your inability to answer a question that may have you think outside the sphere of TT’s tapes and magazine interview. You are condescending in your remarks to "them" who dare to question a point. "Truth" never needs to steer clear of a question or hide behind a bozo. Tom Tomesallo will always be a pioneer in the instruction of TGM. You on the other hand….
Here are two quotes concerning the videos tapes from another Tom Tomasello student who by his account, studied with him longer than anyone else on this forum:
“The true "illusions" that I see are reflected in Tom's "feels" versus what is actually happening.
His narrative and his full speed motion are completely at odds with each other.”
But.... that said. I Totally agree with the next quote from the same former student and now well respect instructor:
What he does leave us with, is a wonderful swinging motion completely subservient to centrifugal force. The full lever extension, sequenced release, left wrist going from cocked, to level, to uncocked, and the right wrist going from level to uncocked are textbook. The Law of the Flail, rhythm, definition of keeping the club on plane, the Flying Wedges, the three imperatives are ALL here! Pay heed all of you swingers! Thanks Tom for all of your enthusiasm, devotion, and your wonderfully infectious manner.
My problem is with YOU and your inability to answer a question that may have you think outside the sphere of TT’s tapes and magazine interview. You are condescending in your remarks to "them" who dare to question a point. "Truth" never needs to steer clear of a question or hide behind a bozo. Tom Tomesallo will always be a pioneer in the instruction of TGM. You on the other hand….
If Tommy's swing is so good (as you say above), why would I or anyone have to think outside the sphere of TT's tapes and magazine interview (it's all there and in the book). I am through with being a reseacher....as Homer said the reseach is complete (with the 7th edition). I agree. I'm sorry you're still searching.
I believe the Tomasello student your referencing is one who possibly didn't get it (based on previous posts). It's taken me years to get it. Why am I getting it....because it's spelled out in the BOOK CLEARLY. I used my audio lesson cassettes of Tomasello to guide me. Did the other former Tomasello student put his lessons on tape???
Next question.....why are you the only one attacking TOMMY"S instruction. The BS about having a problem with me is hilarious. See, when you don't have a REAL technicial arguement you must resort to personal attacks.
Tommy's instruction does not come from just Tom Tomasello there are other instructors who teach this way. Sorry, if you think Tomasello is unique. Just remember the comment Tomasello made about Tommy Armour for starters. Checkout the Chapter video series.
From the first hour of Homer's first Master class, Homer even says (Enthusiastically) you can swing with the right arm. He even went out of his way to say it.
Enough of this waste of time nonsense......time to hit the golf course.
In it's basic form, TGM definitely has a very regimented approach (see chapter 12 executed per 7-3, 2-N-0, and 2-N-1 of the 7th edition). But it can be customized per one's flexiblity, skill and knowledge. Customization is best done through an Authorized Golf Instructor of the System.
Happy Memorial Day Everyone,
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 05-28-2007 at 07:41 PM.
Questions are asked. Answers are not given. Kelley said ask questions. Questions lead to growth.
You present absolutes. You said that you will find no answers to G.O.L.F. in Orlando with Yoda.
Lynn fields questions.
I have watched the videos a dozen times- at least, several of them many more times. Was I to become mesmerized? It did make me want to know more.
Right arm swing, 3 barrel hit- I don't care. TT is a pioneer and was a great TGM instructor few will ever approach.
But many had questions and you always saw that as an attack.
Questions are asked. Answers are not given. Kelley said ask questions. Questions lead to growth.
You present absolutes. You said that you will find no answers to G.O.L.F. in Orlando with Yoda.
Lynn fields questions.
I have watched the videos a dozen times- at least, several of them many more times. Was I to become mesmerized? It did make me want to know more.
Right arm swing, 3 barrel hit- I don't care. TT is a pioneer and was a great TGM instructor few will ever approach.
But many had questions and you always saw that as an attack.
Like I said earlier, I'm not getting into a debate. Don't need to. You're off the mark regarding Lynn in Orlando.
The shots with the driver today were awesome (drives in the 300 yard range and Straight, just like the interview says).....totally using the swinging motion from Tommy's 1991 Golf Illustrated interview which can be found in 7-3. When I studied with Tomasello in person, he called it learning the MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM. It does produce Magic...
Don't know if I would call Tomasello a pioneer (some called him the Billy Graham of TGM)...the swinging procedure he taught can be found in John Jacobs 1972 text "Practical Golf"....Tommy also made the comment during my three day school....to paraphrase Tommy "in the OLD days we use to call it "backing it out" (uncocking the right forearm with a quiet body).....in reference to the uncocking of the right elbow from the top....a la "The Magic of the Right Forearm"....it wouldn't surprise me if Tomasello turned Homer onto Jacobs book. It's interesting that the Magic of the Right Forearm concept turned up after Homer started working with Tomasello. After about three years of intense study, I'm starting to understand why the technique was coined that name.
Tommy made it very clear how to use the right arm in swinging per the Magic of the Right Forearm. If you don't believe me....for starters, reference 6-B-2-0 where Homer says ....Centrifugal Force, Accumulator #1, THE MUSCLES OF BOTH FOREARMS, any---or all---are available to actuate this Assembly.
Today, I realized, I have come full circle....I'm back to the golf article that got me started in TGM. The answer was there the whole time....what an interesting revelation.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 05-28-2007 at 09:41 PM.
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