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Old 06-07-2007, 04:24 PM
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SEC,

I understand what youy are saying and there is a need to soften the blow. They will get the most out of the presentation if they can:
1. Understand-My job to inform and explain
2. Remember-that is really going to take some work and study
3. Have Correct Information-where the book comes in
4. Ability to Absorb and Apply-1-J Let Mechanics produce, let Feel reproduce.

Overcomming "past untruths" TGM has had to live with, should be front and center: it is strictly a method, strictly mechanics, it didn't help Clampett, etc.

A video presentation of different motions is a great idea. I remember Rick Smith did the same thing at a PGA Teaching Summit and it had a dramatic affect on the audience. Not that I am a Rick Smith fan, but his point was well taken.

Bagger, you should have let me know earlier. Bucket already has backstage passes.
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
SEC,

I understand what youy are saying and there is a need to soften the blow. They will get the most out of the presentation if they can:
1. Understand-My job to inform and explain
2. Remember-that is really going to take some work and study
3. Have Correct Information-where the book comes in
4. Ability to Absorb and Apply-1-J Let Mechanics produce, let Feel reproduce.

Overcomming "past untruths" TGM has had to live with, should be front and center: it is strictly a method, strictly mechanics, it didn't help Clampett, etc.

A video presentation of different motions is a great idea. I remember Rick Smith did the same thing at a PGA Teaching Summit and it had a dramatic affect on the audience. Not that I am a Rick Smith fan, but his point was well taken.

Bagger, you should have let me know earlier. Bucket already has backstage passes.
Having thought, about video, if your going for hitting vs swinging, I don't know if it would be the best idea, as both motions can look the same.

Maybe some still frames of Kenny Perry 10-5-E drive out action, and somehow prove to the audience that the ball went straight (what other instruction will tell you how and why the ball went straight?).

Or maybe you could rip off some CBS Konika/Minolta Swing Vision footage and say, " Look folks, one of these days, Kostis is going to have to admit, publically on the air, that by gosh the player did make a descending blow with his driver."
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:57 PM
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Having thought, about video, if your going for hitting vs swinging, I don't know if it would be the best idea, as both motions can look the same.

Maybe some still frames of Kenny Perry 10-5-E drive out action, and somehow prove to the audience that the ball went straight (what other instruction will tell you how and why the ball went straight?).

Or maybe you could rip off some CBS Konika/Minolta Swing Vision footage and say, " Look folks, one of these days, Kostis is going to have to admit, publically on the air, that by gosh the player did make a descending blow with his driver."
SEC, you obviously have been studying TGM for awhile. Have you ever worked with Mike Perpich GSEM at River Pines Golf?
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SEC, you obviously have been studying TGM for awhile. Have you ever worked with Mike Perpich GSEM at River Pines Golf?
No, only lessons from and questions to Ted Fort for me. Strict hitter - no desire to deal with a release swivel or give up control to centrifugal force, so why not learn from the best? (This is NOT to say, or give even the slightest impression that Ted encourages one to hit, but his knowledge of hitting is second to none in the whole world - same as his knowledge of TGM and swinging, so you do have the option) Plus, I like to be a little different.
Fortunately, I have found my answers, TGM and Ted Fort, and have and will continue to go full blast.

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Old 06-07-2007, 05:36 PM
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Always assume that I "crib" all my material! Originality is nothing but judicious imitation Voltaire once said! I do not recall where I got most of the outline from, it may have been a Chuck Evans bit. Still I always start with the mission at hand (pun intended.) Introducing the younglings to the golf ball (and the principle of sustaining the line of compression) and the implement that is well designed for its task (despite what Winston Churchill thought!) I compare the club to a high performance vehicle. The shaft is the motor, the head the chasis, the face the steering wheel. I know that you are addressing open-minded professionals but remediation is a must at all levels of learning ! I then proceed to unvail the secret of lag pressure, the FLW & BRW, as well as the importance of the plane. You will probably have to camp out at Planesville for a while. Although my study of TGM is still in the novice stage I have come across very few people (pros included) that understand what the true plane for every golfstroke (or club if you will) is. If a group of 15 year olds can understand the basic concepts surely your peers will have little difficulty. The last sentence becomes funnier the more I read it!

A piggyback question unrelated to the thread! I stumbled across talk of a Yoda DVD while ferreting through the archives like a crazed vagrant in search metholated spirits. TGM addiction is a serious affair (pun in poor taste intended) Anyway I did not find the final chapter on that particular thread. So, is there such a thing? That is a DVD with Yoda & Co. doing their thang? What a coup if there is. There is NO substitute for the book, but great communicators like Yoda are indispensible for the rest of us hard of understanding types.

Technical question. Why does Ben Doyle feel that ball postioning is a stationary thing i.e. that ball is played from the same spot relative to low point. Is this to achieve a special purpose or did he respectively disagree? I got my hands on one of Mr. Doyles How To Build a G.O.L.F Swing tapes. It is amazing to watch him go through all 24 components as thoroughly as he does. A great learning activity for me is watching the tape with the book as a quick reference. Still, kinda curious about the ball position thing.

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Old 06-08-2007, 07:30 AM
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Always assume that I "crib" all my material! Originality is nothing but judicious imitation Voltaire once said! I do not recall where I got most of the outline from, it may have been a Chuck Evans bit. Still I always start with the mission at hand (pun intended.) Introducing the younglings to the golf ball (and the principle of sustaining the line of compression) and the implement that is well designed for its task (despite what Winston Churchill thought!) I compare the club to a high performance vehicle. The shaft is the motor, the head the chasis, the face the steering wheel. I know that you are addressing open-minded professionals but remediation is a must at all levels of learning ! I then proceed to unvail the secret of lag pressure, the FLW & BRW, as well as the importance of the plane. You will probably have to camp out at Planesville for a while. Although my study of TGM is still in the novice stage I have come across very few people (pros included) that understand what the true plane for every golfstroke (or club if you will) is. If a group of 15 year olds can understand the basic concepts surely your peers will have little difficulty. The last sentence becomes funnier the more I read it!

A piggyback question unrelated to the thread! I stumbled across talk of a Yoda DVD while ferreting through the archives like a crazed vagrant in search metholated spirits. TGM addiction is a serious affair (pun in poor taste intended) Anyway I did not find the final chapter on that particular thread. So, is there such a thing? That is a DVD with Yoda & Co. doing their thang? What a coup if there is. There is NO substitute for the book, but great communicators like Yoda are indispensible for the rest of us hard of understanding types.

Technical question. Why does Ben Doyle feel that ball postioning is a stationary thing i.e. that ball is played from the same spot relative to low point. Is this to achieve a special purpose or did he respectively disagree? I got my hands on one of Mr. Doyles How To Build a G.O.L.F Swing tapes. It is amazing to watch him go through all 24 components as thoroughly as he does. A great learning activity for me is watching the tape with the book as a quick reference. Still, kinda curious about the ball position thing.

Okie out
As you narrow your stance by moving your back foot toward your front foot ,you move your left shoulder (low point) more in front of the ball.
Sorry drew i don't want to hijack
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