First, stop drinking! But I'll play with ya- awhile longer.
We're using the "wrist" in Golfing Machine terms- Chapter 4.
Actually the "wrist" is composed of 8 bones and I'm not talking about any of them- since visually they are of no practical help. In regards to the concept "flat left wrist" - It's the relationship of the back of the hand to the forearm- we could break out the bone relationships but you get the idea- unless you are into the second bottle
In regards to the concept "vertical left wrist"- It's the relationship of an (open flat hand and the forearm) to the ground i.e. back of the hand and forearm against a door. Then you take the grip. After gripping the club, the back of the hand from pinky to thumb normally doesn't form a flat surface. If you were trying to determine "vertical" to the ground at that point- you'd need to use the middle of the back of the hand for the best reference.
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First, stop drinking! But I'll play with ya- awhile longer.
We're using the "wrist" in Golfing Machine terms- Chapter 4.
Actually the "wrist" is composed of 8 bones and I'm not talking about any of them- since visually they are of no practical help. In regards to the concept "flat left wrist" - It's the relationship of the back of the hand to the forearm- we could break out the bone relationships but you get the idea- unless you are into the second bottle
In regards to the concept "vertical left wrist"- It's the relationship of an open flat hand- to the ground i.e. back of the hand against a door. Then you take the grip. After gripping the club, the back of the hand from pinky to thumb normally doesn't form a flat surface. If you were trying to determine "vertical" to the ground at that point- you'd need to use the middle of the back of the hand for the best reference.
If you haven't passed out - I'll give you one more before I start drinking.
What if you got a different . . . hiccup . . . grip type? What's vertical then?
What if you got a different . . . hiccup . . . grip type? What's vertical then?
Maybe nothing then. That's why in post #11 I said 'assuming you take the grip with the left wrist vertical.
Homer's point in 10-2-G is that if you don't have some visual geometric validation for any particular feel- then as he says "Feel loses it geometric basis" and that's why he mentions the "True" Swing in 10-2-G because those grips are theoretically speaking only ideal if one were a "True" Swinger whereby centrifugal force automatically aligns the clubface- in relation to the body i.e. how far back or up it is in relation to the pivot. As opposed to a Ball related "manipulated swinger" where by while you are still using centrifugal force for accelerating the shaft- but you over-ride the automated alignment of the clubface based on the line of pull through the longitudinal center of gravity and you just make sure that you come into impact with the left wrist in its correct alignment- whatever that is that you may have pre-chosen.
It's like two layers of using Centrifugal force- the first layer is for the clubshaft and if you just completely let it control everything then the second layer is for the clubface.
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Last edited by Mike O : 07-08-2007 at 12:48 PM.
Reason: Adding a final paragraph
What if you got a different . . . hiccup . . . grip type? What's vertical then?
Vertical is vertical, whatever your grip type; either the wrist is or isn't. I don't think that "vertical" is relative. If you play with a 90* turned left hand grip at impact, then it won't be vertical to the ground until very well after impact, unless you're happy with going left of left.
Vertical is vertical, whatever your grip type; either the wrist is or isn't. I don't think that "vertical" is relative. If you play with a 90* turned left hand grip at impact, then it won't be vertical to the ground until very well after impact, unless you're happy with going left of left.
Another way to look at it....
The farther 'up plane' your impact, the more the left wrist is in a 'turned' position. Part of the reason that the back of the left hand should match the angle of approach, not face the target. All of course subject to the rest of the machines alignments and the intended result.
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The farther 'up plane' your impact, the more the left wrist is in a 'turned' position. Part of the reason that the back of the left hand should match the angle of approach, not face the target. All of course subject to the rest of the machines alignments and the intended result.
How about this here for a procedure for Horizontal Hinging with a Turned Left Hand . . .
Club chest high on a horizontal plane with a 10-2-B grip. Now just move the club where it would be through impact with the club vertical to the horizontal plane. Now turn the grip and drop it down on the angled plane. It's kinda liike the thumbpad of the left hand has to stay vertical???
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