Angle of Approach Procedure & Right Forearm

[gmoney_69]

Here's how I've been doing it:

- Setup with 10-5-A Plane Line.
- Ball Position set with Clubface aligned for Angled Hinging.
- Visualize straight line Angle of Approach through Impact and Low Points.
and extended in both directions.
- Grip taken in Impact fix with, per 7-2-3, back of Flat Left Wrist and #3
PP facing down the Angle of Approach.
- Right Forearm "On Plane", Turned Shoulder, and facing down the Angle
of Approach, showing precise Cross-Line direction of Thrust through
Impact.
- Machine setup adjusted per 7-2-4. Flat, Level, and Vertical Left Wrist
with Club soled and aligned for Impact.
- 10-5-A Plane Line evaporates leaving 10-5-E, ONLY, to cover with the
Clubhead
- Make Total Motion with Clubhead covering the Angle of Approach. The
covering creates the steepness of the new Plane. The Delivery, is
then the Wheel Track Motion, with the Right Forearm and #3 PP tracing
the Delivery Line.

I believe this is accurate. This should have alginments set, and verified, per 3-F-5, Forward Press. Grip per 7-2 and Right Forearm alignment per 7-3. And the Delivery per 7-23 Wheel Track Motion.

Please let me know if I'm missing anything.

[golfbulldog]

Here's how I've been doing it:

- Setup with 10-5-A Plane Line.
- Ball Position set with Clubface aligned for Angled Hinging.
- Visualize straight line Angle of Approach through Impact and Low Points.
and extended in both directions.
- Grip taken in Impact fix with, per 7-2-3, back of Flat Left Wrist and #3
PP facing down the Angle of Approach.
- Right Forearm "On Plane", Turned Shoulder, and facing down the Angle
of Approach, showing precise Cross-Line direction of Thrust through
Impact.
- Machine setup adjusted per 7-2-4. Flat, Level, and Vertical Left Wrist
with Club soled and aligned for Impact.
- 10-5-A Plane Line evaporates leaving 10-5-E, ONLY, to cover with the
Clubhead
- Make Total Motion with Clubhead covering the Angle of Approach. The
covering creates the steepness of the new Plane. The Delivery, is
then the Wheel Track Motion, with the Right Forearm and #3 PP tracing
the Delivery Line.

I believe this is accurate. This should have alginments set, and verified, per 3-F-5, Forward Press. Grip per 7-2 and Right Forearm alignment per 7-3. And the Delivery per 7-23 Wheel Track Motion.

Please let me know if I'm missing anything.

That sounds like a good "how to" list - thanks! Helps me alot.

[gmoney_69]

YodasLuke,

With 10-5-E and the steeper Plane causing the Clubshaft to be almost vertical at the Top do you find the loading of #3 PP feels different than when using 10-5-A?

Also, I just wanted to say that your posts here in the Hitters forum are a great help. They really help to give me an understanding of the mechanics and feels of the Hitting Stroke.

Thanks again.

Greg

[YodasLuke]

YodasLuke,

With 10-5-E and the steeper Plane causing the Clubshaft to be almost vertical at the Top do you find the loading of #3 PP feels different than when using 10-5-A?

Also, I just wanted to say that your posts here in the Hitters forum are a great help. They really help to give me an understanding of the mechanics and feels of the Hitting Stroke.

Thanks again.

Greg

I'm happy that I could help in any way. I just want to be a conduit for the information. Lynn helped me beyond measure. And, I'm sure that he would agree that Homer helped him beyond measure.

The feel of the #3 is different for each. When the club is on a steeper Plane, it feels lighter.

[Yoda]

I'm happy that I could help in any way. I just want to be a conduit for the information. Lynn helped me beyond measure. And, I'm sure that he would agree that Homer helped him beyond measure.

Absolutely, Ted. We stand on the shoulders of a giant.

Homer Kelley left The Golfing Machine to us in his written and recorded words.

The torch is there.

For those who would pass it...

And accept it...

The legacy lives on.

[Amen Corner]

Been listening to the recordings, reading the book and the posts here. Still some confusion.

Let me start with that I do understand ( I think) the different procedures - Feelwise.

But the geometrical/mechanical aspects are disturbing me. And I wonder if Homer, unintentionally, mixed mechanics and feelings in chapter 2.

So please comment my thinking.

The Right Forearm always Traces -- points at -- one of the three selected Delivery Lines (2-J-3):

1. The True Geometric Plane Line (usually the Target Line);

2. The Arc of Approach;

3. The Angle of Approach.

The Clubhead may Trace -- point at -- the True Geometric Plane Line and simultaneously cover the Arc of Approach. Alternatively, the Clubhead may simply cover -- not Trace -- the Angle of Approach.

So here we go;

It took some re-readings to see that Yoda higtlighted clubhead and not clubshaft.

If I trace with my right forearm the Geometric Plane line ( A straight Line ) - The clubhead will cover the Arc of Approach, so the blur makes an arc

also,

With my right forearm tracing the Angle of Approach ( which also is a straight line) - the clubhead will cover the Angle of Approach.

And here comes my thoughts of Mr. K´s mixing.

The feel should be that the clubhead blurs in a straight line, but the blur is in fact making an arc since we have an inclined plane.

The only time the blur does not make an arc and moves in a straight line is if the plane is striktly vertical.

or am I totally wrong here?

[12 piece bucket]

Been listening to the recordings, reading the book and the posts here. Still some confusion.

Let me start with that I do understand ( I think) the different procedures - Feelwise.

But the geometrical/mechanical aspects are disturbing me. And I wonder if Homer, unintentionally, mixed mechanics and feelings in chapter 2.

So please comment my thinking.



So here we go;

It took some re-readings to see that Yoda higtlighted clubhead and not clubshaft.

If I trace with my right forearm the Geometric Plane line ( A straight Line ) - The clubhead will cover the Arc of Approach, so the blur makes an arc

also,

With my right forearm tracing the Angle of Approach ( which also is a straight line) - the clubhead will cover the Angle of Approach.

And here comes my thoughts of Mr. K´s mixing.

The feel should be that the clubhead blurs in a straight line, but the blur is in fact making an arc since we have an inclined plane.

The only time the blur does not make an arc and moves in a straight line is if the plane is striktly vertical.

or am I totally wrong here?

Meatballz . . . . You are making this WAY WAY WAY too hard brothaman. The EFFORT is to make the club move out to right field in a straight line. That's it . . . can you actually do it? Probably not because your armz is connected to your body so eventually you are going to have the club move and an arc . . . and when you move something in an ARC . . . what do you get? You by LAW get CF. But in Hitting do you want CF? No you don't. But can you eliminate it? No you can't. But can you limit it? Yes. How? By moving in as STRAIGHT of a LINE fashion as you can.

The Angle of Approach can be located . . . but Homer said it doesn't really matter HOW MUCH or HOW LITTLE you GO OUT . . . just GO OUT ON AS STRAIGHT OF A LINE AS POSSIBLE. Homer said that the Angle of Approach procedure would accomodate varying degrees of OUT just as well.

Dude you understand this . . . you gotta put it in the incubator and just let it simmer. Leave it alone and come back. You got it thought dude. You just don't think you got it.

[YodasLuke]

The feel should be that the clubhead blurs in a straight line, but the blur is in fact making an arc since we have an inclined plane.

The only time the blur does not make an arc and moves in a straight line is if the plane is striktly vertical.

or am I totally wrong here?

Homer said the Plane was "vertical" then paused and said, "slightly inclined." The clubhead will always make an arc, since the club is orbiting your left shoulder as it is the top of the radius. But, you can see the second hand of a clock moving in a straight line, if your eyes are on the same plane of motion. It doesn't mean the second hand stopped moving in an arc.

He said you can't have an Angle of Approach to an Angle of Approach procedure. In Ted's words, you can't have a visual equivalent, since what you're seeing and what you're doing are one in the same.

[Yoda]

Here's how I've been doing it:

- Setup with 10-5-A Plane Line.
- Ball Position set with Clubface aligned for Angled Hinging.
- Visualize straight line Angle of Approach through Impact and Low Points.
and extended in both directions.
- Grip taken in Impact fix with, per 7-2-3, back of Flat Left Wrist and #3
PP facing down the Angle of Approach.
- Right Forearm "On Plane", Turned Shoulder, and facing down the Angle
of Approach, showing precise Cross-Line direction of Thrust through
Impact.
- Machine setup adjusted per 7-2-4. Flat, Level, and Vertical Left Wrist
with Club soled and aligned for Impact.
- 10-5-A Plane Line evaporates leaving 10-5-E, ONLY, to cover with the
Clubhead
- Make Total Motion with Clubhead covering the Angle of Approach. The
covering creates the steepness of the new Plane. The Delivery, is
then the Wheel Track Motion, with the Right Forearm and #3 PP tracing
the Delivery Line.

I believe this is accurate. This should have alginments set, and verified, per 3-F-5, Forward Press. Grip per 7-2 and Right Forearm alignment per 7-3. And the Delivery per 7-23 Wheel Track Motion.

Please let me know if I'm missing anything.

Add a little Lag Pressure and a Top Top (10-21-A) -- Hands Right Shoulder high per 10-21-0-1 with a 'high' Clubshaft (pointing toward the sky and nowhere near horizontal). Then, with all due respect to my British friends:

By jove, I think you've got it!