I met Tommy in the early 80's. When Davis Love lll was in college there was an article in Golf Digest about how he hit it so far. Davis Love Jr. and Tommy discussed his "Magic Move". I remember Tommy saying it was a tricky move, like drawing an arrow out of a quiver. Does anyone remember that article? Any comments about the "Magic Move"? I thought it was interesting that Tommy influenced Davis Love Jr.'s teaching.
I met Tommy in the early 80's. When Davis Love lll was in college there was an article in Golf Digest about how he hit it so far. Davis Love Jr. and Tommy discussed his "Magic Move". I remember Tommy saying it was a tricky move, like drawing an arrow out of a quiver. Does anyone remember that article? Any comments about the "Magic Move"? I thought it was interesting that Tommy influenced Davis Love Jr.'s teaching.
After listening to my Tomasello 3 day school audio tapes....the Magic Move mentioned above....it's the "Magic of the Right Forearm". Tommy had a very specific why of teaching it. It's indirectly mentioned in Davis Love Jr's book "How to Feel a Real Golf Swing" in the discussion about how Davis Love III learned to drive a ball 350 yards. I highly recommend the book...
Another point about the "Magic Move" being tricky....it takes some getting use to the right forearm starting the downswing.
It's interesting that the "Magic of the Right Forearm" didn't appear in the book until the 6th edition. I know Tomasello was working with Homer at the time the 5th edition came out. Just don't know the exact date that Tommy made his first phone call to Homer.
Books to checkout with the right arm involved with swinging:
Mark Evershed's "The Golf Solution"
Davis Love Jr's/Bob Toski "How to Feel a Real Golf Swing"
John Jacob's "Practical Golf"
Ernie Els "How to Build a Classic Golf Swing"
All of the texts mention above are in line the Magic of the Right Forearm approach that Tommy taught...active arms and quite body (responding pivot).
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 05-13-2007 at 09:47 AM.
A story about meeting Tommy. I was an assistant pro at a course about 15 min. from the course where he was teaching. He was playing in the group behind me one day. Afterwards in the bar he walked up and said "pro, you play pretty good, but you have no idea what it is you are trying to do! He set a book of matches on the bar and demonstrated the impact interval (open face, inside aft quadrant of the ball). He shook my hand, bent his right wrist back and said "left wrist is flat never bent, right wrist is bent never flat". He showed me throwaway and called it "cancer". He showed me that the right arm cocks and uncocks the left wrist. Pretty good free lesson while sitting at a bar! While i did include these ideas in my playing and teaching,I regret not learning more. Tommy was very enthusiastic and a nice guy.
DG:
I think I know the answer, but I'd like to be sure.
After the right forearm starts the downswing, is it correct to say that the body immediately and simultaneously responds to this action (action of right forearm)? In other words, the body does NOT remain frozen. Thanks.
DG:
I think I know the answer, but I'd like to be sure.
After the right forearm starts the downswing, is it correct to say that the body immediately and simultaneously responds to this action (action of right forearm)? In other words, the body does NOT remain frozen. Thanks.
Yes, the body responds to the action of the right forearm.....Tommy's teaching was based on the Magic of the Right Forearm. I believe on the Australia video tape series you really have to search for it.....it's in one sentence that Tommy says the left hip responds to the action of the right forearm.....Go to the Lee Deitrick "Letter video" series and you'll hear Tommy talking about it again (body responding to the uncocking of the right elbow through the muscles of the right forearm, see 6-B-2-0). On my audio lesson tapes from my three day school, Tommy constantly talks about the body responding to the right forearm.
I believe there is more magic in the "Magic of the Right Forearm" (per 7-3) then most understand and/or believe. Tom Tomasello understood the magic completely.
If you don't have a copy of Tom Tomasello's 1991 Golf Illustrated interview, I can send you an electronic copy. Please provide your regular email address.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 05-22-2007 at 06:49 PM.
The Right Forearm, component 7-3, is critical in ALL Major Basic Strokes. The stroke explained by TT is a 3 Barrel Hit stroke or MAYBE a Right Arm Swing. Each use the folding and unfolding of the Right Arm to cock and uncock the left wrist unlike a Swing Stroke that uses momentum transfer, 2-K, and a definite PULL to ignite CF in a pure throw-out action of Accumulators 2 and 3. Does a Swing Stroke still employ 7-3, the Magic of the Right Forearm? OF COURSE. All Strokes performed correctly in The Golfing Machine World employs MRF.
The Magic is present whether you swing an inert right arm or actively push the right arm. The Magic of 7-3 is in the Right Elbow action that controls or powers the Flying Wedges on an incline plane for three-dimensional impact. DOWNOUTTHROUGH. So simply.
I do feel that when one says the first move is for the right elbow to re-establish itself before the body moves or that the body only moves after the right forearm lowers or saying that there is no hip bump to start the stroke without CLEARLY indicating that the stroke does not use a pulling action or momentum transfer of the pivot to accelerate a CF Throw-Out action is failing to explain the stroke properly. And to say that Momentum Transfer, a hip bump and any pulling action is the wrong way to impact a golf ball is not the way to teach TGM.
A 3 Barrel Hit is a nice stroke, TT teaches a wonderful way the strike a ball. But some fail to clearly indicate the difference between the physics of the strokes and dismiss any other TGM way.
I do feel that when one says the first move is for the right elbow to re-establish itself before the body moves or that the body only moves after the right forearm lowers or saying that there is no hip bump to start the stroke without CLEARLY indicating that the stroke does not use a pulling action or momentum transfer of the pivot to accelerate a CF Throw-Out action is failing to explain the stroke properly. And to say that Momentum Transfer, a hip bump and any pulling action is the wrong way to impact a golf ball is not the way to teach TGM.
There is a "hip bump" or clearing of the hip in both hitting and swinging. There must be, or there will be round housing. As of now, I believe Tomasello is saying the action of the right forearm sets off this motion of the hips (perfectly in line with chapter 5). For me, the point of emphasis in my question was "the body IMMEDIATELY....responds (to the action of the right forearm)."
As for the right forearm power in a swinging procedure, that is toughie, as unfortunately, niether, Mr. Kelley or Mr. Tomasello are with us. That said, I've seen the results of Lynn Blake and Ted Fort, and I do believe the results of DG.
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