Ted Fort's Hitting Stroke -- Pitching Wedge (Down The Line)
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03-18-2005, 10:31 AM
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Re: The Hitter's Derived Inclined Plane
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Originally Posted by EC
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Yoda,
1-L, #6. The Clubshaft always points at the Plane Line except when they are parallel to each other.
Ted's impact alignments are MARVELOUS, and even though his procedure does not follow the above dictum to the full extent ...aren't predictable impact alignments the end that we all should be seeking?
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Eddie,
For the Hitter using the Angle of Approach procedure, the 'old' Plane Angle with its Straight Line Baseline is gone. It served its purpose by locating the Stroke's Impact Point and Low Point. Through these two points passes its derivative -- the Straight Line Angle of Approach Delivery Line. This Visual Equivalent thus determined, the original Plane ceases to exist (2-J-3).
The Hitter with his Clubhead now Covers -- not Traces or 'points at' -- this new Delivery Line. And whatever Inclined Plane the Sweetspot must utilize to make this journey is now the Inclined Plane of the Stroke.
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Yoda,
This got me a little lost. Is this description the Cross Line (to Right Field) Angle of Approach with the line through Impact and Low Point?
Sorry me so stoopid.
Thanks!
R
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03-18-2005, 11:16 AM
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What's My Line?
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Originally Posted by EC
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Yoda,
1-L, #6. The Clubshaft always points at the Plane Line except when they are parallel to each other.
Ted's impact alignments are MARVELOUS, and even though his procedure does not follow the above dictum to the full extent ...aren't predictable impact alignments the end that we all should be seeking?
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Eddie,
For the Hitter using the Angle of Approach procedure, the 'old' Plane Angle with its Straight Line Baseline is gone. It served its purpose by locating the Stroke's Impact Point and Low Point. Through these two points passes its derivative -- the Straight Line Angle of Approach Delivery Line. This Visual Equivalent thus determined, the original Plane ceases to exist (2-J-3).
The Hitter with his Clubhead now Covers -- not Traces or 'points at' -- this new Delivery Line. And whatever Inclined Plane the Sweetspot must utilize to make this journey is now the Inclined Plane of the Stroke.
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Yoda,
This got me a little lost. Is this description the Cross Line (to Right Field) Angle of Approach with the line through Impact and Low Point?
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It is indeed, Richard. And both the Flat Left Wrist and the #3 Clubhead Lag Pressure Point (the meaty part of the Right Forefinger) should be aligned to face directly down this Line at Impact Fix (per 7-2).
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03-18-2005, 07:15 PM
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How should these swing sequence clips be used to examine basic plane angles and shifts? I want to draw the TSP at address and work from there. My "eye" which is imature is having difficulty applying the book photos to these clips and drawing any conclusions.
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03-19-2005, 08:30 AM
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Re: What's My Line?
[quote="Yoda"][quote="12 piece bucket"]
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Originally Posted by EC
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Yoda,
1-L, #6. The Clubshaft always points at the Plane Line except when they are parallel to each other.
Ted's impact alignments are MARVELOUS, and even though his procedure does not follow the above dictum to the full extent ...aren't predictable impact alignments the end that we all should be seeking?
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Eddie,
For the Hitter using the Angle of Approach procedure, the 'old' Plane Angle with its Straight Line Baseline is gone. It served its purpose by locating the Stroke's Impact Point and Low Point. Through these two points passes its derivative -- the Straight Line Angle of Approach Delivery Line. This Visual Equivalent thus determined, the original Plane ceases to exist (2-J-3).
The Hitter with his Clubhead now Covers -- not Traces or 'points at' -- this new Delivery Line. And whatever Inclined Plane the Sweetspot must utilize to make this journey is now the Inclined Plane of the Stroke.
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Yoda,
The "New" inclined plane still has a straight baseline doesn't it? And, wouldn't the low end of the club either point at or cover it, or the clubshaft would be parallel to it? I'm just trying to reconcile in my mind the geometry of having the clubshaft on plane. Not to pick on Ted (I LOVE his motion), but I was originally asking that if we looked at each of the still positions of his video, aren't there times when the club is off plane by definition? Quite frankly, I think that impact is where it's at, but I spend a lot of time with students working on plane, and I do not want to misinform any of them, ever.]
Congrats to you, Bagger, and Trigolt...this site is a wonderful experience!
EC
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03-31-2005, 11:02 AM
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Ted's Swing
Will we be able to see a side view of Ted's swing? Maybe he could wear some lighter colored clothing?
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03-31-2005, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Martee
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I have heard some refer to this move as pulling the cord on a lawnmower. If you have done that before,then the drill comes pretty easy.
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I have heard this too and I think it's a bad analogy. I don't fan when I start the TORO--the elbow folds and the forearm travels back on the pull cord plane.
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04-01-2005, 12:20 PM
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Nice swing man! You talk about hitting it low if you need to, which is great...can you hit it high though?
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04-01-2005, 07:25 PM
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hitting it low
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Originally Posted by birdie_man
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Nice swing man! You talk about hitting it low if you need to, which is great...can you hit it high though?
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You know everything is relative...
I guess I hit it high for the right reasons (backspin, and high clubhead speed), not throwaway. But I can hit it as low as I'd like with shaft lean at impact. You really get to the point with TGM that you can do just about anything to the ball you'd like.
By the way....great pic.
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04-14-2005, 12:03 PM
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Cool...
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By the way....great pic.
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Haha thanks man. He's a legend.
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04-15-2005, 02:31 PM
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Great tool to show a golf swing. What ball position is being used by Nuke with his pw? Looks like middle of stance but I know how video angles can be deceiving.
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