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Old 01-03-2009, 07:20 PM
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I'm a lover, not a fighter! That's why I carry the .44 magnum with a 7 1/2" barrel. The game's called Ted wins; there's no fighting. Yoda was a little freaked out when he rode in my car for the first time and saw my pea shooter.


This is the only time Ill think of you and Correy Pavin at the same time.

He had a pea shooter according to Ernie. You acknowledge yours. I think they're a little different though.

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Old 01-06-2009, 09:25 AM
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Luke,Im pretty relaxed about takeaway and startdown waggle,my 2nd Question for you is
Is the startdown all tricep initiated and at what place in downswing does R/shoulder begin its downward journey
Hope it makes sense..Thanks in advance
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:22 PM
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Luke,Im pretty relaxed about takeaway and startdown waggle,my 2nd Question for you is
Is the startdown all tricep initiated and at what place in downswing does R/shoulder begin its downward journey
Hope it makes sense..Thanks in advance
No. Don't straighten the Right Arm from the Top.

You want to Deliver the bent Right Arm into Release. Straightening later is better. I Drag the club in Start Down via the Pivot, then I Drive the Club through Impact with the late straightening of the Right Arm.

The immediate straightening of the Right Arm from the Top is weak. You want the Right Arm to be fully straight at Follow Through (2 feet past the ball). If you begin the straightening from the Top and (best case scenario) your Right Arm becomes straight at Follow Through, you have spread the straightening of the Right Arm throughout the entire Downstroke. It equates to a large Release Interval. More often than not, when the straightening starts at Top, the Right Arm becomes fully straight prior to Impact. If anyone tells you to straighten the Right Arm from the Top, hand them their sign .

On the other hand, if you straighten the Right Arm as late as possible, you've compressed the straightening of the Right Arm into a small amount of time. This equates to a small Release Interval. If you have the need for speed, this is the stroke you want.
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:40 AM
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No. Don't straighten the Right Arm from the Top.

You want to Deliver the bent Right Arm into Release. Straightening later is better. I Drag the club in Start Down via the Pivot, then I Drive the Club through Impact with the late straightening of the Right Arm.

The immediate straightening of the Right Arm from the Top is weak. You want the Right Arm to be fully straight at Follow Through (2 feet past the ball). If you begin the straightening from the Top and (best case scenario) your Right Arm becomes straight at Follow Through, you have spread the straightening of the Right Arm throughout the entire Downstroke. It equates to a large Release Interval. More often than not, when the straightening starts at Top, the Right Arm becomes fully straight prior to Impact. If anyone tells you to straighten the Right Arm from the Top, hand them their sign .

On the other hand, if you straighten the Right Arm as late as possible, you've compressed the straightening of the Right Arm into a small amount of time. This equates to a small Release Interval. If you have the need for speed, this is the stroke you want.

Are you talking intent in this post, or what the arm actually does?
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:42 PM
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Are you talking intent in this post, or what the arm actually does?
My quote was "If anyone tells you to straighten the Right Arm from the Top, hand them their sign ." Replacing the words "to straighten" with "to feel like straightening" should keep you from handing out the sign.

Ironically, I was working with a fellow professional, yesterday. He has Accumulator Lag and I was trying to get him to straighten his Right Arm as quickly as he could from the Top. He's left hand dominant, so he has always struggled with the use of his Right Arm.

One of the 'secrets' in getting someone to change quickly is to get the student to do an opposite. The opposite of keeping his Right Arm bent forever is to try to straighten it immediately.

But, he knows the goal, and he knows that we're trying to accelerate the learning process.
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Old 01-07-2009, 03:14 PM
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A question about your work with the left handed....
YodasLuke. This description evoke my interest. I`m playing from left but being a righthanded I have som trouble in feeling convenient with a inert left arm. I try instead to concentrate on my back shoulder getting it down but with an actice front arm. What are your, or your friends goals regarding his right side.

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Old 01-07-2009, 04:26 PM
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No. Don't straighten the Right Arm from the Top.

You want to Deliver the bent Right Arm into Release. Straightening later is better. I Drag the club in Start Down via the Pivot, then I Drive the Club through Impact with the late straightening of the Right Arm.

The immediate straightening of the Right Arm from the Top is weak. You want the Right Arm to be fully straight at Follow Through (2 feet past the ball). If you begin the straightening from the Top and (best case scenario) your Right Arm becomes straight at Follow Through, you have spread the straightening of the Right Arm throughout the entire Downstroke. It equates to a large Release Interval. More often than not, when the straightening starts at Top, the Right Arm becomes fully straight prior to Impact. If anyone tells you to straighten the Right Arm from the Top, hand them their sign .

On the other hand, if you straighten the Right Arm as late as possible, you've compressed the straightening of the Right Arm into a small amount of time. This equates to a small Release Interval. If you have the need for speed, this is the stroke you want.



Luke

Nice, drag then drive.

Never thought about too much right elbow bend at impact. Very interesting point . I guess not too many people suffer from this condiition compared to the opposite , not enough right arm extension left for the ball. Most often a right shoulder left behind at top problem.



Brownman.

4,1,2,3. Right shoulder down is start down, need to have some pivot axis first. Luke showed me the start down waggle to learn this in my lesson with him and Yoda last year.

Like you with your weight already target wards, sneaking your right shoulder (no 4 I think) close to the guys head and then jabbing (no 1) through the target (his head or aiming point in TGM). In golf the aiming point is not the green but down, down and out in the dirt, somewhere around low point.

Maximum force would have the right shoulder and the jab going through the ball. This is 4 barrel maybe however I think, I dunno. Probably not a place to start but a place to experiment with once you have it all working really well. I loved your post about the right shoulder in boxing, "either to it or right through it". A jab vs a punch. Both pack a blow.

Sorry if this is half baked Luke but this is where Im at anyways. Please advise.

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Old 01-07-2009, 07:03 PM
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YodasLuke. This description evoke my interest. I`m playing from left but being a righthanded I have som trouble in feeling convenient with a inert left arm. I try instead to concentrate on my back shoulder getting it down but with an actice front arm. What are your, or your friends goals regarding his right side.

Hansli
I would prefer to have everyone playing golf with their dominant arm on the back side of the club. I'd say the biggest problems that I've had with students had to do with the wrong arm being behind the shaft.

Although he's a Swinger, when he feels like he's trying to straighten the Right Arm from the Top, he's able to hit the Plane Line. When his right arm loses structure (Extensor Action) and sags, the club drops below the Plane.

He feels like he's Hitting with a huge pulley, but he knows better. It's just good Extensor Action in a Swing.
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:22 PM
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Luke

Nice, drag then drive.

Never thought about too much right elbow bend at impact. Very interesting point . I guess not too many people suffer from this condiition compared to the opposite , not enough right arm extension left for the ball. Most often a right shoulder left behind at top problem.

OB
He's been a pro for a long time. So, it's been 40 years since he was over-the-top with throwaway.

Because he's shorter and played with ill-fit clubs for years, he learned to do two things: 1. Drop the club under plane 2. Keep the clubface from closing. Both were to keep the ball from hooking.

Now, with irons that are 6 degrees flat (perfectly fit for him), his compensations for the old clubs make him hit blocks. When he feels like he's straightening the Right Arm from the Top, coming over-the-top, and snapping the clubface shut, he hits the ball dead straight. Go figure...
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:33 PM
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I'm also left hand dominant, since I started playing. And I also have trouble with the inert left arm. Right handed thoughts make me feel like I'm throwing it away.
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