"Swinging left" as I understand it anyways, doesnt really mean you swing on a plane line bent to the left. Its more the feeling associated with a maintenance of the bend in the right hand and a hold off of the club as the club head and HANDS travel up and in post low point. Its this feeling of the hands going "in" or left that is being referred to in "swinging left". Arguably a terrible name given that the golfing world is already plagued with cross line, out to in swing paths, "roundhousing".
The MORAD fella's have their CF and CP releases, other teachers have their "swinging level left" release vs a "down the line release". Im wondering if this is just really different hinge actions with their various clubhead travel distances at both arms straight?
Any ideas?
ob
OB,
I'm not sure that I am a believer in the "swing left" deal. I believe in the Plane that Mr. Kelley describes...
I have always been a staller, slinger, flipper. My clubhead stayed on my target line far to long as it flipped through impact. To me, getting the club back on the plane at follow through and into finish "feels" like swinging left, but is really just traveling back up the plane rather than steering.
Might just be a personal problem.
I don't care for the thought of "swinging left" I still believe the club needs to travel down-out-forward to follow through, then head back up the plane. I believe Mr. Trevino's plane was just aligned left.
Right or wrong, did I just make any sense?
Kevin
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I'm not sure that I am a believer in the "swing left" deal. I believe in the Plane that Mr. Kelley describes...
I have always been a staller, slinger, flipper. My clubhead stayed on my target line far to long as it flipped through impact. To me, getting the club back on the plane at follow through and into finish "feels" like swinging left, but is really just traveling back up the plane rather than steering.
Might just be a personal problem.
I don't care for the thought of "swinging left" I still believe the club needs to travel down-out-forward to follow through, then head back up the plane. I believe Mr. Trevino's plane was just aligned left.
Right or wrong, did I just make any sense?
Kevin
Agreed. Me too. The plane and the flat left wrist still rule for sure.
The "swinging or releasing left" thing is so horribly named it makes it hard to discuss without thinking of a cross line swing path or left alignment. And why name something after a "feel" of the hands going left anyways? Maybe I have it all wrong. But the move itself does work nicely for less than full powered shots.
Im just wondering if these various "releases" are simply different hinge actions? A held off 7 iron is really just angled hinging? A down the line full release with a driver is horizontal hinging , plane and simple. A Trevino like cut off , held off wedge shot is angled hinging with a lot of lag pressure and a brisk pace. Not sure if hitting and swinging would make a difference beyond their normal associated hinge action.
Agreed. Me too. The plane and the flat left wrist still rule for sure.
The "swinging or releasing left" thing is so horribly named it makes it hard to discuss without thinking of a cross line swing path or left alignment. And why name something after a "feel" of the hands going left anyways? Maybe I have it all wrong. But the move itself does work nicely for less than full powered shots.
Im just wondering if these various "releases" are simply different hinge actions? A held off 7 iron is really just angled hinging? A down the line full release with a driver is horizontal hinging , plane and simple. A Trevino like cut off , held off wedge shot is angled hinging with a lot of lag pressure and a brisk pace. Not sure if hitting and swinging would make a difference beyond their normal associated hinge action.
ob
Great questions OB. I think you and I are stuck in the same place. Hopefully one of the big guns will help us out with this...
Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
Agreed. Me too. The plane and the flat left wrist still rule for sure.
The "swinging or releasing left" thing is so horribly named it makes it hard to discuss without thinking of a cross line swing path or left alignment. And why name something after a "feel" of the hands going left anyways? Maybe I have it all wrong. But the move itself does work nicely for less than full powered shots.
Im just wondering if these various "releases" are simply different hinge actions? A held off 7 iron is really just angled hinging? A down the line full release with a driver is horizontal hinging , plane and simple. A Trevino like cut off , held off wedge shot is angled hinging with a lot of lag pressure and a brisk pace. Not sure if hitting and swinging would make a difference beyond their normal associated hinge action.
Originally Posted by KevCarter
Great questions OB. I think you and I are stuck in the same place. Hopefully one of the big guns will help us out with this...
One "Big Gun" is already here, and he has things under control.
When Trevino is hitting these approach shots he would appear to hold off his finish swivel back onto the plane. An apparent off plane move where neither end of the club is pointing at the plane line (albeit only at this point in the swing long after the ball is gone, having traced the plane all the way to the horizon line) All good golfers do this at times. Tiger, Hogan etc.
What should we TGM adherents make of this? Is this a "Special Procedure" at the expense of the plane line? Angled Hinging with an intentional under swivel? What is gained and what is ventured? Is it worth it? When and why do you do it?
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