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Old 06-15-2009, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Can you phrase that in TGM terminology?

TGM states two ways of applying force to the club through the release and impact interval. Push or pull. It's pretty rudimentary.

When you say that Hogan was a "Rotary Pusher" do you mean that his body rotated in a circle and he pushed the club through impact?

I mean he held an angle that he created and that let him push and turn as hard as he wanted with the right side! The increase in angle in the back of the right wrist from the top allowed him to do several things at once he needed to preform his swing. It let him layoff the club, create lag, get the right elbow in position, and bow the left wrist by increase angle in the back of the right wrist. The increase of angle is the pushing, the upper trunk is the rotation and "BOTH" controled the lie, loft, and angle of the face so he could go at it as hard as he wanted!
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:30 PM
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I mean he held an angle that he created and that let him push and turn as hard as he wanted with the right side! The increase in angle in the back of the right wrist from the top allowed him to do several things at once he needed to preform his swing. It let him layoff the club, create lag, get the right elbow in position, and bow the left wrist by increase angle in the back of the right wrist. The increase of angle is the pushing, the upper trunk is the rotation and "BOTH" controled the lie, loft, and angle of the face so he could go at it as hard as he wanted!
If you have a chance to freeze frame this swing there's some amazing pictures and alignments here . . . there aren't many even close to the same zip code as this golf swing . . . beautiful.

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Old 06-15-2009, 10:53 PM
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It looks like pulling. I didn't see a single indication of any #1 Thrusting.
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Old 06-15-2009, 11:22 PM
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It looks like pulling. I didn't see a single indication of any #1 Thrusting.


The reason I am pretty sure it is not pulling is the fact that Hogan himself talkes about not activating the tendons in the left arm other than in his last three fingers. If you look at most photos of Hogan from a left side impact view he is not even flexing in his left arm. Watch the video below @ 1:33 you will see the club face look to the sky from its past position. This is the right wrist bowing I am talking about. Now to the pulling, if Hogan pulls the club to the inside where his hands disaper that shuts down the face, but he is pushing with the right hand and rotating with the ride side which pushes or pulls the left side clear if the left arm pit stays connected. Apples and Oranges there, but you can see what I mean.




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Old 06-16-2009, 12:09 AM
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Hey Burley

What if he pulled but not so much with his left arm say but with his body, his left arm being like an inert rope? A stretched out rope running between the left shoulder and the outwardly extending right arm. Then the left arm muscles would be relaxed except for the strong hold in the last three fingers and the engaged tendons attached to them.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:51 AM
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Hey Burley

What if he pulled but not so much with his left arm say but with his body, his left arm being like an inert rope? A stretched out rope running between the left shoulder and the outwardly extending right arm. Then the left arm muscles would be relaxed except for the strong hold in the last three fingers and the engaged tendons attached to them.

It's possible! I just think that he knew OTT came from the left side in his swing and he could apply push/rotation with the strong side and felt comfortable of not missing it left, while having full control of the club face and power. "The left arm is a NERD"!

Watch this video, this is what Hogan felt if you look at his swing it's dofferent but thats feel! It vary's to each person! The part I want you to watch is when he says "most people do it wrong and start the swing with the upper body".


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Old 06-16-2009, 02:44 AM
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Hi Burley,

What is the difference between yours and Mr. Gary Edwin's on Hogan right-side swing concept?

BTW, what is your opinion why Hogan's right foot slided so much even with iron shots?

Back to this original topic, the magical device book, the writer focus on how Mr. Hogan's power package attached to the rotating torso...it is not something new, even with the word "magical" added. I prefer the "Magic of the right forearm" though.

Hope I have chance to read your book soon.
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