hogan on the Ed Sullivan Show

[Daryl]

Daryl,

I wonder if a little right hip bump at startup is what Mr. Kelley meant by "leading the backstroke with hip action?" I was surprised by this train of thought, but Yoda convinced me 100%

Perhaps it was because we were in teaching mode and my problem was my right hip being locked up on the backstroke making it very difficult to keep the shaft on plane?

Kevin

I think he was saying that Hip Action moves the Shoulders, which will move the Arms and Hands. So, starting with the Hips and ending with the Hands, is an actual pivot controlled hands. I don't think a Hip Bump is Hip Action. I understand more clearly now. I'm sure you can have a lot more motion than what you're doing and the Hands are still controlling the work of the pivot before it gets the other way around. You aren't allowing the Pivot to take control of the Hands (pull them off track).

[12 piece bucket]

Better pay attention to this drill . . . . Mr. Hogan's club didn't deviate from the plane angle very much thru the ball . . . . there are some BIG pieces here . . . . Mr. Hogan controlled the 3 functions better than anyone . . . . His selected plane angle was different than some prescribe but . . . these were his components to achieve it. Consider the implications of what is being said here . . . consider the #3 accumulator motion and its angle for Mr. Hogan's plane . . . consider the description of the Elbow Plane in the earlier editions (paraphrasing . . . the Rightforearm moves at right angles to the axis) . . . consider the implications of a larger #3 angle on the amount of face rotation and clubhead travel for a given amount of roll . . . consider the Arc of Approach delivery path vs. straight line . . . . Consider what the arms do if the Arc of Approach gets WIDER . . . is it really pivot controlled hands?

Not pivot controlled hands . . . more like Hogan controlled Plane, Hogan controlled head, Hogan controlled face, Hogan controlled ball, Hogan controlled GAME.

[Daryl]

Elbow Basic Plane Angle - Normally, the Right Forearm will be moving at right angles to the torso - which are the unexcelled alignments for Right Arm Power and On Plane "Throw Out" action. The Elbow Plane is normally a Pivot Controlled Stroke. HK

“Golf is not a game of good shots. It's a game of bad shots.” BH

"Selecting a stroke is like selecting a wife. To each his own." BH

"There's no such thing as a natural golf swing." BH

This is just for you Bucket.

[O.B.Left]

Better pay attention to this drill . . . . Mr. Hogan's club didn't deviate from the plane angle very much thru the ball . . . . there are some BIG pieces here . . . . Mr. Hogan controlled the 3 functions better than anyone . . . . His selected plane angle was different than some prescribe but . . . these were his components to achieve it. Consider the implications of what is being said here . . . consider the #3 accumulator motion and its angle for Mr. Hogan's plane . . . consider the description of the Elbow Plane in the earlier editions (paraphrasing . . . the Rightforearm moves at right angles to the axis) . . . consider the implications of a larger #3 angle on the amount of face rotation and clubhead travel for a given amount of roll . . . consider the Arc of Approach delivery path vs. straight line . . . . Consider what the arms do if the Arc of Approach gets WIDER . . . is it really pivot controlled hands?

Not pivot controlled hands . . . more like Hogan controlled Plane, Hogan controlled head, Hogan controlled face, Hogan controlled ball, Hogan controlled GAME.

Bagger should give you another 1000 posts for this.

[gmbtempe]

Never seen that video, thanks.

[KevCarter]

I think he was saying that Hip Action moves the Shoulders, which will move the Arms and Hands. So, starting with the Hips and ending with the Hands, is an actual pivot controlled hands. I don't think a Hip Bump is Hip Action. I understand more clearly now. I'm sure you can have a lot more motion than what you're doing and the Hands are still controlling the work of the pivot before it gets the other way around. You aren't allowing the Pivot to take control of the Hands (pull them off track).

Thanks Daryl!

On a side note, I will post more in it's own thread when I have time, but what an incredible experience hosting a workshop with YODA. Unbelievable teacher, he makes it so simple. Incredibly great guy, just a wonderful gentleman who has so much enthusiasm that it is infectious!

Kevin