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Old 08-11-2009, 05:59 AM
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He has exercises that train your body to have more efficient and effective movement patterns, which have been proven to work through lots and lots of testing
I'm still a bit confused on what you measure and from what starting point? Efficient and effective movement patterns in relation to what? Effective as to what end?
Well bioengine is the only one who can help you understand the measurement. But what effective and efficient means to me is:
  • Creating clubhead speed with the least loss along the chain
    Naturally creating a swing that works - not having to manipulate or try and control your body to avoid a bad action

biomechanics organisation has measured many of the worlds best athletes. That is what they assess you against. But what they have that matters for me is that they have exercises that have been scientifically tested to ensure that they have measurable effects on improving your biomechanics. There will be exercises that make your hips move more. There will be exercises that make them move less. Because your program is individually developed to improve your issues.

Hope that helps Bucket
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Old 08-11-2009, 07:36 AM
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"He has exercises that train your body to have more efficient and effective movement patterns, which have been proven to work through lots and lots of testing." TGM has information on how you can do it, and exercises to teach you to do it.

How about an example? Can you just show or explain one of your exercises and how it addresses a specific problem. Talking about these exercises and saying they work is not helpful to me. If you are going to talk about this knowledge you have and we don't you should share some of it. Saying it is complicated and has to be specific to an individual golfer is not an excuse for not giving examples. I would feel better about some of the biomechanic studies if a Lynn Blake, or other knowledgable golf swing instuctor was listed with the investigators. You can always look up the CV's of the investigators and determine their credibility in their fields. A qualified golf swing expert could point out to the investigators what variables to investigate and how to evaluate the data obtained. Many medical studies done by academic doctors have resulted in false conclusions because they have lacked the clinical experience to see the flawed design of the studies. So you might point out a study in which the investigators included qualified experts not only in biomechanics but in golf instuction.
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Old 08-11-2009, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by david sandridge View Post
"He has exercises that train your body to have more efficient and effective movement patterns, which have been proven to work through lots and lots of testing." TGM has information on how you can do it, and exercises to teach you to do it.

How about an example? Can you just show or explain one of your exercises and how it addresses a specific problem. Talking about these exercises and saying they work is not helpful to me. If you are going to talk about this knowledge you have and we don't you should share some of it. Saying it is complicated and has to be specific to an individual golfer is not an excuse for not giving examples. I would feel better about some of the biomechanic studies if a Lynn Blake, or other knowledgable golf swing instuctor was listed with the investigators. You can always look up the CV's of the investigators and determine their credibility in their fields. A qualified golf swing expert could point out to the investigators what variables to investigate and how to evaluate the data obtained. Many medical studies done by academic doctors have resulted in false conclusions because they have lacked the clinical experience to see the flawed design of the studies. So you might point out a study in which the investigators included qualified experts not only in biomechanics but in golf instuction.
Have a look at the video link I posted on the previous page. That has examples of the exercises and some explanation of what is trained and why, by the man who did the research.

I was going to go into the qualifications of some of the people involved but that's their business. The info is there, everyone is free to use or ignore it. I'm glad I've used it. Many very highly regarded golf coaches use this. I suspect they're glad.

I hope you look into it further to determine if it will help you.
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by david sandridge View Post
"He has exercises that train your body to have more efficient and effective movement patterns, which have been proven to work through lots and lots of testing." TGM has information on how you can do it, and exercises to teach you to do it.

How about an example? Can you just show or explain one of your exercises and how it addresses a specific problem. Talking about these exercises and saying they work is not helpful to me. If you are going to talk about this knowledge you have and we don't you should share some of it. Saying it is complicated and has to be specific to an individual golfer is not an excuse for not giving examples. I would feel better about some of the biomechanic studies if a Lynn Blake, or other knowledgable golf swing instuctor was listed with the investigators. You can always look up the CV's of the investigators and determine their credibility in their fields. A qualified golf swing expert could point out to the investigators what variables to investigate and how to evaluate the data obtained. Many medical studies done by academic doctors have resulted in false conclusions because they have lacked the clinical experience to see the flawed design of the studies. So you might point out a study in which the investigators included qualified experts not only in biomechanics but in golf instuction.
David, check out this Golf Biomechanics 101 video:
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:04 PM
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Good start
Thanks for the link to some specific information. It would be interesting to get the biomechanic experts together with Lynn Blakes, Greg McHattons etc of the world and compare the swings of Brian Gay, Jeff Huff, Ted Fort etc and note the differences in the various swing patterns. That information would be very helpful for someone who wanted an effecient life long swing that would be easy on the body and could be consistently be reproduced. I would be interested in Lynns and Vickie Lakes comments. Looking at the long driver guys swings as well as Tigers I am concerned about the human bodys ability to withstand the stress to the back, knee joints, muscles and tendons. I still don't think Tigers body will hold up to the senior tour. I think he will be in the same position as Nickaus.
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