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Old 08-14-2009, 11:11 AM
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"purposeful throwaway"

Ahhhh, I was wondering what you call that. Mark Sheftic, Teaching Professional at Merion, and a competitor this week was the first guy I watched this morning with Acquired motion. He kept a flat left wrist, and had a beautiful finish swivel just like Yoda teaches. I figured we would see that all day long. Tiger and Phil kept very flat left wrists, but not many others did. "purposeful throwaway" --- that makes sense, and is definitely what we were seeing!

Matt, thanks for putting up with our rookie TGM banter, Jerry and I enjoyed it and we learned a LOT from your expertise. That was a BLAST!

Kevin

Intentional throwaway. Surprising as this may be to some...............its in the book. Minor Basic Strokes, 10-3-J Pause. In the photo Diane is employing a horizontal hinge. Most pros vertical hinge it with the clubface pointing towards the sky at follow through for high, soft landing short shots.

V.J. didnt like it in the video he did with Lynn. Pelz doesnt like it, thinks its maxing out of layback makes distance control more difficult. But Lynn teaches it and the guys on tour sure use it a lot, possibly because of the extremely fast greens they face when short sided. Jeff Ogilvy is a master at this shot. He even pauses his left arm or hand going back as well as through on some really short ones from the rough when facing a short downhiller. Very rope handle.

It isnt the only way but its a great weapon to have in the arsenal. I had a heck of a time getting used to it but now love it. You've got to pause the left hand and let the clubhead scoot under the ball with a very rope handle like motion. Swingers will have an easier time learning it.

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Old 08-14-2009, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Intentional throwaway. Surprising as this may be to some...............its in the book. Minor Basic Strokes, 10-3-J Pause. In the photo Diane is employing a horizontal hinge. Most pros vertical hinge it with the clubface pointing towards the sky at follow through for high, soft landing short shots.

V.J. didnt like it in the video he did with Lynn. Pelz doesnt like it, thinks its maxing out of layback makes distance control more difficult. But Lynn teaches it and the guys on tour sure use it a lot, possibly because of the extremely fast greens they face when short sided. Jeff Ogilvy is a master at this shot. He even pauses his left arm or hand going back as well as through on some really short ones from the rough when facing a short downhiller. Very rope handle.
GREAT insight OB. Now I remember Yoda talking to us Monday about 10-3-J Pause. I had forgotten, so much to absorb. Thanks for the refresh!

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Old 08-14-2009, 10:01 PM
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I heard it as "10-3-J Paws" and kind of took it personally.
I gotta work on those clamps.
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:10 PM
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I heard it as "10-3-J Paws" and kind of took it personally.
I gotta work on those clamps.


H is Paw
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:35 PM
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Re: Intentional throwaway

See 1-K -- Differences.

"Apparently there is no factor -- including Clubhead Throwaway -- that cannot, by proper assembly, adjustment, alignment, etc., be worked into a fairly effective Stroke Pattern for some application or other."

This is the essence of what these tour guys do around the greens. They've assembled a pitching pattern that employs throwaway, and they can repeat it over and over again. They are skilled masters of this game, and they have the good fortune of being able to practice/play almost every day. They feel the reward outweighs the risk with these short throwaway shots, and they practice them religiously until they know they've built an effective pitch shot pattern they can trust.
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Re: Intentional throwaway

See 1-K -- Differences.

"Apparently there is no factor -- including Clubhead Throwaway -- that cannot, by proper assembly, adjustment, alignment, etc., be worked into a fairly effective Stroke Pattern for some application or other."

This is the essence of what these tour guys do around the greens. They've assembled a pitching pattern that employs throwaway, and they can repeat it over and over again. They are skilled masters of this game, and they have the good fortune of being able to practice/play almost every day. They feel the reward outweighs the risk with these short throwaway shots, and they practice them religiously until they know they've built an effective pitch shot pattern they can trust.
Thanks Matt. Welcome back!!! I will look forward to learning from your insights as a player who has put this stuff into action. You are already off to a wonderful start!

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