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Old 08-16-2009, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Mr Kelley, I think, would want you to find your own best method Kev. The more axe handle method that sees you going to both arms straight accomplishes much the same thing as the Pause Stroke. Maybe a little less intentional wobble , a little more sweet spot feeling as there isnt quite as much lay back but not that different. Especially if you open up the face really wide.

But if in your journey from swinger to hitter to what ever, you want to go back to a more rope handle method (you dont necessarily need to leave active thrusting, hitting to achieve rope handle to my mind) by all means, explore the lagging, sweeping intentional throwaway flop shots. Managing throwaway is what its all about as Lag is the secret to good golf.

Im thinking that often a TGM'r will learn the impact alignments in a more wooden manner but then sometimes maybe graduate to a more free flowing stroke, hitting or swinging. The free flow being a natural Lag producer that reproduces the impact alignments he or she learned previously. But of course Homer would say there is no one way or one journey. To each his own. Arnie was King after all.
Thanks very much for that OB. There is NO best! I'll stick with what makes me feel all warm and fuzzy for awhile. Maybe later when I get some of that confidence back I will experiment. Nice to know I have you guys here to help sort things out!



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Old 08-16-2009, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
Thanks very much for that OB. There is NO best! I'll stick with what makes me feel all warm and fuzzy for awhile. Maybe later when I get some of that confidence back I will experiment. Nice to know I have you guys here to help sort things out!



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Old 08-17-2009, 09:32 AM
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Ive been thinking about 10-3-J Pause a bit.

Diane in the photo is employing Horizontal Hinging and as such her left wrist stays flat as the left hand and arm "pause" at the ball and the clubhead scoots past the hands early. So Id say this technically isnt throwaway as the left wrist is flat.

The pros often Vertical Hinge it however. Im thinking that here the left hand or arm "pauses" but the clubhead scoots past a bending left wrist. Intentional throwaway, with a maxing out of layback being the recipe for high, soft landing flops. You'll often see them choke way down on the shaft to shorten the radius and lessen the send. They'll bend the plane line way to the left of course with the clubface opened wide and pointing at the hole.

When you try it out the key is to pause the left side as allowing the left arm to separate off the chest will give you a more driving shot with less layback. I like to hit a bunch of balls alternating between pause and blast off, pause and blast off. Flop and drive. When you pause it, the rope like left wrist becomes the center of the clubs rotation and there is a real swing like feeling to it as you are now swinging the clubhead instead of the hands.

How Homer a 15 handicap, identified all of this cause and effect is beyond comprehension. Homer identified the geometry of the pure strike, maximum compression and in so doing also identified the effects of intentionally altering that geometry. The tools of the trade for the shot maker.

After all the work I did on getting to both arms straight with a flat left wrist, I never would have gotten around to trying this type of shot again. Id have left it as flippy wristed kid stuff if werent for................Mr Lynn Blake.

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Old 08-17-2009, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Ive been thinking about 10-3-J Pause a bit.

Diane in the photo is employing Horizontal Hinging and as such her left wrist stays flat as the left hand and arm "pause" at the ball and the clubhead scoots past the hands early. So Id say this technically isnt throwaway as the left wrist is flat.

The pros often Vertical Hinge it however. Im thinking that here the left hand or arm "pauses" but the clubhead scoots past a bending left wrist. Intentional throwaway, with a maxing out of layback being the recipe for high, soft landing flops. You'll often see them choke way down on the shaft too shorten the radius and lessen the send.

When you try it out the key is to pause the left side, allowing the left arm to separate off the chest will give you a more driving shot with less layback. I like to hit a bunch of balls alternating between pause and blast off, pause and blast off. Flop and drive. When you pause it, the rope like left wrist becomes the center of the clubs rotation and there is a really swing like feeling to it as you are now swinging the clubhead instead of the hands.

How Homer a 15 handicap, identified all of this cause and effect is beyond comprehension.
Great post OB, and it makes PERFECT sense. It just sounds like a recipe for disaster for me right now!

BamBam must have been monitoring this post, and added the perfect example of the "pause" component. I think this displays it perfectly using a model we can all understand.



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Old 08-17-2009, 09:57 AM
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Hah. Know what you mean Kevin, I had a heck of a time getting it right. I said in another post that the woods of Marietta are filled with my first attempts. The thing that really helped me was a bit of float loading and a throw. I work on it when there is nobody around........for their safety.

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Old 08-17-2009, 10:02 AM
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Hah. Know what you mean Kevin, I had a heck of a time getting it right. I said in another post that the woods of Marietta are filled with my first attempts. The thing that really helped me was a bit of float loading and a throw. I work on it when there is nobody around........for their safety.
OB, we are very similar. A little "feel" of float loading is huge to maintaining my proper impact alignments in both basic and acquired motion as well. Not exactly text book, but hey, whatever works...

My new favorite Smilie, I'm calling him "pause."

Thanks OB!

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"You cant be in the process of throwing it away if you are in the process of (float) loading it." Sayeth Luke and Yoda.
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