I realize that, to clarify, my question is how many tour players DO NOT SHIFT to steeper planes and remain on the elbow plane from startup to finish, i would guess very few if any but was curious if there was a player out there to study from, who employs a zero shift elbow plane swing. from my first post, my question is are impact conditions the same when employing a double shifting elbow plane-any steeper plane as employing a zero shift elbow plane swing, I'm thinking impact conditions with regards to spin and hinge action would be the same because with both swings impact occurs on the elbow plane.
I realize that, to clarify, my question is how many tour players STAY on the elbow plane from startup to finish i would guess very few if any. from my first post, my question is if you shift up to steeper planes but return to the elbow plane, it seems to me that impact conditions as far as hinge action would not change if you were to remain on the elbow throughout, in the book it states that staying on the elbow plane makes angled hinge more horizontal hinge and spin rate is reduced but if you return to the elbow plane anyway i dont see how it affects spin or hinge action at all. for example i startup on the elbow plane then shift to Turned shoulder plane start down returns to elbow plane and impact occurs on the elbow plane. wouldn't impact conditions be unaltered with regards to spin and hinge action if i were to remain on the elbow plain throughout?
You're correct. To answer your first question, many of them stay on the elbow plane throughout the swing for putting, chipping and pitch shots.
it's interesting then because homer states in 10-6-A that "it is the flattest normal plane that will still allow the right forearm to be on plane during impact this produces a very flat angle of attack with reduced backspin and should be avoided for short shots unless it is also part of your full stroke pattern." he's suggesting that ideal impact conditions for the short game would be on a steeper plane, a player that i learned the short game from taught me to play all short game shots with the heel of the club never touching the ground, the club resting on the toe, a much steeper plane for the short game then for other shots, one to ensure the heel of the club did not interfere and two to increase height and point the face more straight as you will find a flatly soled perpendicular leading edge wedge shot will hit shots consistently to the left with most modern wedges, however i have found the dave pelz wedges to always aim dead straight when the leading edge is perpendicular to the target line and flatly soled.
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