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Old 12-13-2009, 08:42 PM
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In all the articles I have read there has been no real mention of how and why his close team stood for this nonsense and were complicit in his infidelities .Although there was an article where a girl claimed that she was approached by one of Tiger's representatives and given a card with a telephone number and told to ring it because Tiger fancied her. Tiger did not arrange the flight and accommodation details for various mistresses to hook up with him at tournaments. His close team presumably did this and there must have been an enormous amount of planning and organising involved. It also makes me think there must have been many attempts by his team to suppress leakage to the press prior to the latest scandals. This shows a real cynical arrogance and a huge amount of control over what must be a yes man team. Anyone with any morality with his real interests at heart would not have stood for this behaviour and would have pointed out it would lead to disaster. This scandal makes me think people like that were fired long ago and Tiger has surrounded himself with some low life yes men. Regardless of the infidelities it raises some serious questions about the team he collected about him.
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:55 PM
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In all the articles I have read there has been no real mention of how and why his close team stood for this nonsense and were complicit in his infidelities.

Although there was an article where a girl claimed that she was approached by one of Tiger's representatives and given a card with a telephone number and told to ring it because Tiger fancied her. Tiger did not arrange the flight and accommodation details for various mistresses to hook up with him at tournaments. His close team presumably did this and there must have been an enormous amount of planning and organising involved. It also makes me think there must have been many attempts by his team to suppress leakage to the press prior to the latest scandals. This shows a real cynical arrogance and a huge amount of control over what must be a yes man team. Anyone with any morality with his real interests at heart would not have stood for this behaviour and would have pointed out it would lead to disaster. This scandal makes me think people like that were fired long ago and Tiger has surrounded himself with some low life yes men. Regardless of the infidelities it raises some serious questions about the team he collected about him.
All in the enabling camp are now at risk. The 'new broom' must sweep clean.

Does this include Stevie, Tiger's 'main man' and hands-on protector from the public-at-large?



One thing's for sure:

Many sacrificial lambs -- both willing and unwilling -- will be presented at the altar that is the TW Franchise.

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Old 12-13-2009, 10:25 PM
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Williams said today he was clueless any of this was going on....I find that hard to believe.
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:40 PM
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There's a interesting thought, scape goats.

Stevie has addressed the Kiwi press with assertions that he knew nothing and that Tiger has a "problem" of some sorts. The first admission of such by anyone associated with Tiger. Yes Stevie is that good at being political , remember the Phil thing.

A "problem" sort of like say a juvenile Alexander Portnoy with a billion dollars to spend on solving his complaint? The Brits would just call Tiger a "Wanker" I'd venture.

He has transcended, his dad was right after all, but I dont think he passed Gandhi in the process. Pee Wee Herman maybe but not Gandhi.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/golf/31...ks-his-silence

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Old 12-13-2009, 10:51 PM
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There's a interesting thought, scape goats.

Stevie has addressed the Kiwi press with assertions that he knew nothing and that Tiger has a "problem" of some sorts. The first admission of such by anyone associated with Tiger. Yes Stevie is that good at being political , remember the Phil thing.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/golf/31...ks-his-silence
Wow . . . hadn't seen this, O.B., or any other 'Stevie' mention.

Guess I'm at the end of a very long line.

P.S. When he trots out his P.M. "prick" incident as a badge of 'honor', the barrel is being scraped pretty low:
"I am a straight-up sort of person. I tell it like it is," Williams said.

"Last year, at the same particular point of time, is when I had the confrontation with Phil Mickleson [the world's No 2 ranked golfer]. I didn't lie about it – I called the guy a prick.

"I never said I didn't call him a prick. I never denied one word of what I said.

"I had no knowledge of what Tiger's indiscretion was. And for Rick Reilly to turn around and say that I am a liar and there is no way I couldn't know – and that I should be fired – that is sensational journalism at its height right there.

"I am an honest person. I had no knowledge of what was going on [with Tiger]. If I did, I would say I did."
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Old 12-13-2009, 11:20 PM
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Wow . . . hadn't seen this, O.B., or any other 'Stevie' mention.

Guess I'm at the end of a very long line.

P.S. When he trots out his P.M. "prick" incident as a badge of 'honor', the barrel is being scraped pretty low.


I wonder how Tiger or his advisers feel about Stevie's "problem" admission. It might be strike two for Stevie, if the Phil comment was strike one. But Tiger is the umpire on this count, so who knows?

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Old 12-13-2009, 11:44 PM
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But Tiger is the umpire on this count . . .
O.B., I luv ya, man, but please . . .

These guys -- as famous and as talented as they may be -- are, at end of the day, "the jock straps . . . the equipment".

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fea..._dallas_forty/

They rule as long as they serve.
"We keep you alive to serve this ship.

Row well . . . and live."

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Stevie's a 'one-off'.

And, in TW Homeland Security crisis mode Red/Severe . . .

Collateral damage.
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Old 12-14-2009, 03:51 PM
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O.B., I luv ya, man, but please . . .

These guys -- as famous and as talented as they may be -- are, at end of the day, "the jock straps . . . the equipment".

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fea..._dallas_forty/

They rule as long as they serve.
"We keep you alive to serve this ship.

Row well . . . and live."

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Stevie's a 'one-off'.

And, in TW Homeland Security crisis mode Red/Severe . . .

Collateral damage.

Yah, thats harsh but true. We all row on our own ship I guess, such is work life. We serve and then we die or vice a versa. "No one is bigger than the game."

Stevie given all of his remarks would be wise not to pursue a second career in politics.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:51 PM
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Wow . . . hadn't seen this, O.B., or any other 'Stevie' mention.

Guess I'm at the end of a very long line.

P.S. When he trots out his P.M. "prick" incident as a badge of 'honor', the barrel is being scraped pretty low:
"I am a straight-up sort of person. I tell it like it is," Williams said.

"Last year, at the same particular point of time, is when I had the confrontation with Phil Mickleson [the world's No 2 ranked golfer]. I didn't lie about it – I called the guy a prick.

"I never said I didn't call him a prick. I never denied one word of what I said.

"I had no knowledge of what Tiger's indiscretion was. And for Rick Reilly to turn around and say that I am a liar and there is no way I couldn't know – and that I should be fired – that is sensational journalism at its height right there.

"I am an honest person. I had no knowledge of what was going on [with Tiger]. If I did, I would say I did."
I am pretty certain straight-up Steve is going to be caught out and proven a liar and "I am a straight-up sort of person" will turn out to be "I am a straight-up sort of liar". You can't believe everything you read in the press but the scale of Tiger's indiscretions make me think it is almost certain that Steve has met some of these mistresses and they are now talking and cashing in. All it takes is one to say she met Steve and his lies will come to haunt him. As for

"I am an honest person. I had no knowledge of what was going on [with Tiger]. If I did, I would say I did."

Are we really expected to believe that when he has so much at stake. If he was smart he would have kept his mouth shut and avoided the press and said nothing. It would seem to me Steve's comments are more likely based around an attempt for self preservation than the truth.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:02 PM
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I am pretty certain straight-up Steve is going to be caught out and proven a liar and "I am a straight-up sort of person" will turn out to be "I am a straight-up sort of liar". You can't believe everything you read in the press but the scale of Tiger's indiscretions make me think it is almost certain that Steve has met some of these mistresses and they are now talking and cashing in. All it takes is one to say she met Steve and his lies will come to haunt him. As for

"I am an honest person. I had no knowledge of what was going on [with Tiger]. If I did, I would say I did."

Are we really expected to believe that when he has so much at stake. If he was smart he would have kept his mouth shut and avoided the press and said nothing. It would seem to me Steve's comments are more likely based around an attempt for self preservation than the truth.
At the very least Stevie is guilty of giving bad interview. We've suspected this for a while but he totally set himself up to be proven wrong here. Any photographer with a photo on file of him with a Tigergal could end his days on the bag in an instant. Even if on the off chance he is sincere, his play was very stupid. "No comment" even would have been far better.

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