Taly for a hitter?

[KevCarter]

Couple of things Im thinking about the TAly.

-the Taly reveals the Left Arm Flying Wedge alignment. The Plane of the Left Wrist cock which is broken by a bending left wrist. An unwanted Horizontal wrist Motion. Normally the result of "Steering" Golfs first snare, which itself is probably a product of a misconception about the physics of impact. But I digress.

-The left arm, given any Accumulator #3 Angle (club under the heal of the left hand as opposed to running down the life line as in putting , short chip shots) is not on the Inclined Plane and therefor doesnt point at the plane line. Like wise for the Taly if it is aligned such that it points down the left arm. Basically the Taly is an extension of the Left Arm.

-When the Taly's shaft comes into conflict with your clubs shaft , you have bent your left wrist and lost your Left Arm Flying Wedge.

-The correction for this conflict is to add a ROLLING flat Left Wrist. Which as Lynn so emphatically states in his masterpiece "Finish Swivel" movie, "will take you immediately to the next level".

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...sh-Swivel.html

-Gentlemen the cure for a bending left wrist, is a Rolling left wrist. Try it out with Taly and see how it works for yourself. When you Roll you dont Bend and vice versa. Im thinking the physics and momentum are such that in the absence of the Roll the Left Wrist must Bend!!! Overtaking is going to happen after all unless you block, steer, hold it off entirely. The clubhead will pass the hands, must overtake for full power. Learn to do it with a flat rolling left wrist and remove all steering and blocking motions from your action and the huge compression loss associated with them. Rolling, Horizontal Hinging has the least compression loss of any Hinge Action.

What 'cha think about all that?

I agree 100%, and I wish I was capable of describing it as eloquently as you just did!

Thanks O.B.

Kevin

[O.B.Left]

I agree 100%, and I wish I was capable of describing it as eloquently as you just did!

Thanks O.B.

Kevin

Thanks Kev. Im just sharing really and Im probably like a medical student maybe, ascribing to everything what I just learned or what's on my mind.

The only parts I personally invented or discovered were the things I got wrong maybe.

Though it seems like a journey of self discovery, in truth its a guided one, thanks to the good graces of some who have made this journey before us. People like Lynn, Ted , Jeff, Drew et all. Thats the way Homer thought people learned things best! The chick breaks its own way out of the shell in the hatchery.

What do you think about the apparent paradox of the hitter needing left wrist roll to avoid left wrist bending?

[KevCarter]

Thanks Kev. Im just sharing really and Im probably like a medical student maybe, ascribing to everything what I just learned or what's on my mind.

The only parts I personally invented or discovered were the things I got wrong maybe.

Though it seems like a journey of self discovery, in truth its a guided one, thanks to the good graces of those who have made this journey before us. People like Lynn, Ted , Jeff, Drew et all. Thats the way Homer thought people learned things best! The chick breaks its own way out of the shell in the hatchery.

What do you think about the apparent paradox of the hitter needing left wrist roll to avoid left wrist bending?

O.B.

I may be wrong, but I have not thought of it as a paradox at all. I think of it as mandatory if we want to comply with the plane after impact.

Per 4-D-O

Normally, only Swingers with their Standard Wrist Action (10-18-A) “Swivel” – that is, actually rotate the Left Wrist – through the Release into its Vertical Position for Impact. That must be pre-programmed not later than The Top per 8-6. Have a clear picture of the intended Impact Hand Position all the way down – NOT the process of achieving it. But all players must “Swivel” – actually rotate their Wrists – into the “parallel to the Plane” position for the Finish (8-12) after the Follow-through.

Perhaps I am taking it a little out of context, but I have always been of the opinion this is in line with YODA's teaching, and I feel it is very apparent in his swing.

Sorry for posting this picture as a reference so often, but I enjoy it as my model. (I wish...)

Kevin

[O.B.Left]

Thanks Kev

Not a bad action for a 600 year old guy eh? I have always looked at that sequence and wondered if that was his over swivel swing demonstration though? That second last photo looks a bit that way to my eye. How 'bout you?

Ive been thinking about the paradox thing and do agree with you that it isnt. In regard to rolling as the cure for bending and what the HItters take is on this given his usual Angled Hinge, Im thinking:

-Impact should always be executed as Hinge Action not a Swivel.
-Whether you are Angled Hinging or Horizontal Hinging the club face is actually in the process of closing (despite the no roll feel of Angled).
-I dont think 12-3-0 pt 22 DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP was intended for swingers only. Hitters must prepare to Roll too in other words.

And here is what Im noodling over/ working on these days:

-Even Hitters need a good pivot as a pivot stall will cause a flip and a pull for me which begets a hands manipulation to almost Vertical Hinging as a compensation. So Im turning and rolling despite the fact Im Hitting. Like a hitter with a Left ARm flail!! Weird. I normally dont do too well with left sided swing thoughts. This may be Homer's "sameness" or it may be my personal "insaneness". I dunno.

Any other hitters with a roll feel out there?

[KevCarter]

O.B.

Maybe you are just 4 barrel hitting like YODA!?!?!?

Kevin

Thanks Kev

Not a bad action for a 600 year old guy eh? I have always looked at that sequence and wondered if that was his over swivel swing demonstration though? That second last photo looks a bit that way to my eye. How 'bout you?

Ive been thinking about the paradox thing and do agree with you that it isnt. In regard to rolling as the cure for bending and what the HItters take is on this given his usual Angled Hinge, Im thinking:

-Impact should always be executed as Hinge Action not a Swivel.
-Whether you are Angled Hinging or Horizontal Hinging the club face is actually in the process of closing (despite the no roll feel of Angled).
-I dont think 12-3-0 pt 22 DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP was intended for swingers only. Hitters must prepare to Roll too in other words.

And here is what Im noodling over/ working on these days:

-Even Hitters need a good pivot as a pivot stall will cause a flip and a pull for me which begets a hands manipulation to almost Vertical Hinging as a compensation. So Im turning and rolling despite the fact Im Hitting. Like a hitter with a Left ARm flail!! Weird. I normally dont do too well with left sided swing thoughts. This may be Homer's "sameness" or it may be my personal "insaneness". I dunno.

Any other hitters with a roll feel out there?

[innercityteacher]

It looks like his lower body only serves the upper body turn to the hitting position. And then, most of the focus is on the down, out and through swing.

Is it supposed to be that simple-looking?

How ironic that the meticulous observations of Mr. Kelly are in the service of such a simple-looking motion. Now, if I can just imitate that motion!

As a teacher, I am reminded that artists in middle ages were employed by physicians to dig-up the dead, expose diseased organs by removing skin, and carefully sketch muscles, tissue, ligaments and diseased organs in order to create medical textbooks. All the while, the participants risked arrest and the wrath of the local church for desecration of the dead.

O.B.

I may be wrong, but I have not thought of it as a paradox at all. I think of it as mandatory if we want to comply with the plane after impact.

Per 4-D-O


Perhaps I am taking it a little out of context, but I have always been of the opinion this is in line with YODA's teaching, and I feel it is very apparent in his swing.

Sorry for posting this picture as a reference so often, but I enjoy it as my model. (I wish...)

Kevin

[O.B.Left]

It looks like his lower body only serves the upper body turn to the hitting position. And then, most of the focus is on the down, out and through swing.

Is it supposed to be that simple-looking ?

How ironic that the meticulous observations of Mr. Kelly are in the service of such a simple-looking motion. Now, if I can just imitate that motion!

As a teacher, I am reminded that artists in middle ages were employed by physicians to dig-up the dead, expose diseased organs by removing skin, and carefully sketch muscles, tissue, ligaments and diseased organs in order to create medical textbooks. All the while, the participants risked arrest and the wrath of the local church for desecration of the dead.

Yes..........

[innercityteacher]

We are supposed to get to 54 degrees in Philly this week. I am going to a range, put my right arm on plane, tilt slightly to my right, pretend I am Moe Norman or
or YODA, brace like a rock and hit the hell out of several buckets of balls!

I will use the smallest possible pivot then, when my right elbow is close to my right hip, I will fire my right arm or pull it making sure to let my left hand swivel horizontally and compress those dead balls like crazy!


I will make mistakes and report!

Patrick

Yes..........