Ya agreed, Bucket those Hogan pictures are great. Not sure about the Double Anchor on the photographer though.
Bucket the leg extension thing. Is it a product of the Hip motion or is it a plane jane knee unbending? Like you where pushing down on the ground or something.
Ya agreed, Bucket those Hogan pictures are great. Not sure about the Double Anchor on the photographer though.
Bucket the leg extension thing. Is it a product of the Hip motion or is it a plane jane knee unbending? Like you where pushing down on the ground or something.
Check your yaller book on knee action . . . Mr. Kelley had it right . . . The knee action controls the hip slant and amount they can turn . . .and thus axis tilt to an extent and how far and how much the hips can go forward.
So compare the Hogan picture to our homie Kev's . . .
When the left knee straightens the hips will begin to turn . . . and allows the axis to tilt and hips and spin to extend . . . but you'll note that Hogan's knee straightens but it does it LATE . . . he goes forward forward forward down into the left knee and the pushes UP off the ground and the hips turn and raise and the axis tilts . . . We don't have Kev's entire sequence but it is clear that there are some things going on . . . head could be chasing? Hips could be backing up? Or both? But you can see by the left foot there's some spin out going on and the weight is more back. Look at where their butts are comparitively . . . also the axis tilts . . . somebody literally needs to kick Kev's ass . . . but then look at Eldrick too . . . . knee straightens but quicker than Hogan's . . . Eldrick is on tilt (in many ways) but his head seems to be backing up . . . . all this has implications on hinging and plane too . . .
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Part of the problem is the old body, knees, back, and lack of flexibility. Combine that with trying to be "pretty."
I had switched to Standard Knee action in an attempt to look like Mr. Hogan. With my inflexible, short backswing, my legs didn't have time to bend at start down, and then push and straighten through follow through. My right knee was still bending through impact, and my hips were backing up exactly as you saw.Going back to Right anchor, I skip the straightening then bending procedures, and am able to get pushing from the ground properly through impact.
I also need to work on my hand path, which should get better with my improved rotation. Flaring the left foot more has made a huge difference in taking the stress off my left knee and allowing some turn. In the pic of the bad swing, it's tough to see from that angle, but I never get the shaft back on plane after impact. Chasing it BIG TIME.
Lots of issues, which you would expect from someone who really hasn't played in 3 years...
Hopefully I'll get some new pictures up next week... feeling like my old self again.
Perfect example of needing to find a motion to fit ourselves, not a model.
Make sense Bucket?
Thanks,
Kevin
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Interesting stuff Bucket. Gonna try the bend and extend with the left knee and see what happens to the rest of the machine on video.
As an aside that last photo of Tiger and Hogan, which one looks likes it hurts? Hogan's right foot is de weighted , his body has rotated towards the hole, his hands are still in front of his body etc. Sort of like he's swinging the club and letting the club swing him too. Like Fred Astair dancing with a string mop. There is an efficiency and a harmony there.
Interesting stuff Bucket. Gonna try the bend and extend with the left knee and see what happens to the rest of the machine on video.
As an aside that last photo of Tiger and Hogan, which one looks likes it hurts? Hogan's right foot is de weighted , his body has rotated towards the hole, his hands are still in front of his body etc. Sort of like he's swinging the club and letting the club swing him too. Like Fred Astair dancing with a string mop. There is an efficiency and a harmony there.
Well . . . both had surgery on their leg . . . one from a wreck and the other from golf (unless it was from some extracurricular activity recently unearthed) . . . but I'd have to say Eldrick's knee wasn't done any favors by that swing. Who knows . . . I can't even spell gyrokologist.
Part of the problem is the old body, knees, back, and lack of flexibility. Combine that with trying to be "pretty."
I had switched to Standard Knee action in an attempt to look like Mr. Hogan. With my inflexible, short backswing, my legs didn't have time to bend at start down, and then push and straighten through follow through. My right knee was still bending through impact, and my hips were backing up exactly as you saw.Going back to Right anchor, I skip the straightening then bending procedures, and am able to get pushing from the ground properly through impact.
I also need to work on my hand path, which should get better with my improved rotation. Flaring the left foot more has made a huge difference in taking the stress off my left knee and allowing some turn. In the pic of the bad swing, it's tough to see from that angle, but I never get the shaft back on plane after impact. Chasing it BIG TIME.
Lots of issues, which you would expect from someone who really hasn't played in 3 years...
Hopefully I'll get some new pictures up next week... feeling like my old self again.
Perfect example of needing to find a motion to fit ourselves, not a model.
Make sense Bucket?
Thanks,
Kevin
Witcha . . . that opening up of the left foot will let you go forward more too . . . Hogan had some pretty busted wheels too right? I'd say you could fix a lot of that off the course . . . mirror work type stuff . . . head in a door frame type stuff. You ain't gotta be perfect . . . just get lil' better and a lil' better and lil' more better over time. Rome wasn't built in a day and it takes a long time to cook pig shoulder to make it taste good.
Witcha . . . that opening up of the left foot will let you go forward more too . . . Hogan had some pretty busted wheels too right? I'd say you could fix a lot of that off the course . . . mirror work type stuff . . . head in a door frame type stuff. You ain't gotta be perfect . . . just get lil' better and a lil' better and lil' more better over time. Rome wasn't built in a day and it takes a long time to cook pig shoulder to make it taste good.
Thanks Man, really appreciate your help and sharing of your expertise!
Kevin
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. . . but then look at Eldrick too . . . . knee straightens but quicker than Hogan's . . . Eldrick is on tilt (in many ways) but his head seems to be backing up . . . . all this has implications on hinging and plane too . . .
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