That explains why the smallest LPGA players hit their 7 iron the same distance as the bigg PGA guys
Well, you can make fun of it all you want. I've gone down that road for 30 years. It's Alignments and Precision. But I won't stand in anyone's way who wishes to learn that on their own.
Strength doesn't blast the #4 PP from the chest. But if you don't swing on the TSP and use EA with PP #3, then you need all of the strength you can get. And more.
I can blast a 7 iron 190 yards. I can do 10 push-ups. I can't do a single Pull-up. I do 25 sit-ups on my best day.
Sometimes, I can hit my driver 190 yards and sometimes longer!
Originally Posted by Daryl
Well, you can make fun of it all you want. I've gone down that road for 30 years. It's Alignments and Precision. But I won't stand in anyone's way who wishes to learn that on their own.
Strength doesn't blast the #4 PP from the chest. But if you don't swing on the TSP and use EA with PP #3, then you need all of the strength you can get. And more.
I can blast a 7 iron 190 yards. I can do 10 push-ups. I can't do a single Pull-up. I do 25 sit-ups on my best day.
Hi Daryl! Was Moe Norman a swinger? Was his technique longer than this TSP technique or shorter do you guess? Do certain techniques lend themselves to length? Accuracy? Physical builds, abilities, and disabilities?
I know that your sharing your experiences are 'preciated by lots of people. I read your stuff on the uncocked left wrist and when done correctly, I can carry a 9 iron almost 145 yards.
But, I'm obviously missing several important alignments and techniques. I have to hit a 5 wood to get 190 yards and, of course, it won't hold the green.
It would be awesome to be able to have that ability to park a 7 iron on a green from that distance!
My hitting experiment doesn't feel as simple and as balanced as the swing to me, so I will be studying this technique in earnest. Also, my GSEB is 72 and swings so beautifully that his 6 iron goes 190. He shoots below his age, often.
My goal is to shoot sub par for the next 20 years, with God's help, and teach a lot of kids to do even better. So, let's get to specifics!
I have been watching Alignment I since my computer had some battery power during our recent power outtages. I think of that yellow stretch band for extensor action and it feel nice and wide with great structure. How do I make that arm tension disappear though as I spin down?
Do I try to hold my right palm up as I spin down as part of the "heavy, drag the mop feeling?" Or, does the slight lateral shift/downrange shift/foot roll allow the right palm to float down in an up position? Or is it the conscious guiding of the #2 pp to the ball that keeps the left palm up?
Patrick
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
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I don't know how you made it without a computer for two days without suffering withdrawal symptoms. I hope everything else was ok. Not having power really makes a mess of things.
You're on the right track. With a 7 iron, it's all about hitting Down.
Moe was a Swinger. He said that his "Right Arm does nothing".
Hold your Right Palm up with a Bent and Level Wrist.
My typical 7 Iron is 160-165. I can make it go 190.
Ask Tiger if Ambien helps his game. Then watch out for Tasers.
I don't know how you made it without a computer for two days without suffering withdrawal symptoms. I hope everything else was ok. Not having power really makes a mess of things.
You're on the right track. With a 7 iron, it's all about hitting Down.
Moe was a Swinger. He said that his "Right Arm does nothing".
Hold your Right Palm up with a Bent and Level Wrist.
My typical 7 Iron is 160-165. I can make it go 190.
Ask Tiger if Ambien helps his game. Then watch out for Tasers.
Things get different when you have lower lofted clubs though . . . then it becomes more about maximizing launch conditions and speed. With a 7 iron you can lean the shaft and still have loft left over. The chicks don't hit the driver like the dudes . . . so it is about "talent" to a large extent . . . just like Mikey Jordan got the hops . . . and Bubba can bust it 400 yards . . . ain't no chicks sniffin' on that jumping or thumping drivers.
Daryl, 12 piece and HB,,,I don't pretend to know what you do so I'm going to persist.
Originally Posted by Daryl
Hi Innercity,
I don't know how you made it without a computer for two days without suffering withdrawal symptoms. I hope everything else was ok. Not having power really makes a mess of things.
You're on the right track. With a 7 iron, it's all about hitting Down.
Moe was a Swinger. He said that his "Right Arm does nothing".
Hold your Right Palm up with a Bent and Level Wrist.
My typical 7 Iron is 160-165. I can make it go 190.
Ask Tiger if Ambien helps his game. Then watch out for Tasers.
Very funny stuff about Tiger, D! The tasers would connect to my titanium hip and kill about 30 people next to me, I think.
Daryl, you said the following which I benefitted from, today:
The #3 accumulator relies on the Bent AND Level Right Wrist, the Pivot and the Right Elbow Action.
(THIS ALL HAPPENED FOR ME, TODAY, FOR THE FIRST TIME, SINCE I FIGURED OUT EXTENSOR ACTION!!!! )
The #2 accumulator is very dependent on the #4 accumulator release which relies on the Pivot. Replace your Left Arm, Hand and Wrist with a Rope. Take the Rope to the Top of your Swing with Extensor Action. Use Downstroke Shoulder Acceleration to Blast the Rope off the Chest. Where is the Left Wrist Cock? Think about it for a minute and take your best guess.
(POWER AND PRECISION BUT MUCH MORE PRECISION THAN POWER!! 120 YARDS CARRY WITH A PW WHICH IS 10 YARDS BETTER WITH ANGLE HINGE, HORIZONTAL HINGE IS ALMOST 130 YARDS! RUNS FOREVER,SCARY!!!)
(CHIP SHOTS, PUNCH SHOTS ARE VERY ACCURATE,I MEAN HITTING THE MARKERS SEVERAL TIMES IN A ROW WITH WEDGES TO 3 WOODS. AMAZING! )
(TURNING MY STERNUM KEEPS EVERYTHING HEAVY AND SHOTS GO STRAIGHT. WHEN I TRY TO "SPIN" THE SHOULDER QUICKLY LIKE YODA I SLICE UNTIL I PLANT LEFT HEEL THEN IT'S STRAIGHT.)
What do the Pressure Points in the Hands do?
(I TRIED SHOOTING PP# 2, THE # 3 SOMETIMES BOTH PRODUCED SAME DISTANCE. AS TO 12 PIECE'S POINT, MY 5 WOOD IS STILL ABOUT 180 CARRY AND 3 WOOD MAYBE 200 CARRY. BUCKET, ARE YOU SAYING A LONG DRIVER IS BORN, NOT MADE?)
(WELL, I WANT THE DISTANCE ON THE DRIVES AND I'M CONVINCED I CAN GET TO 250 YARDS SOMEHOW USING EXTENSOR ACTION. I'M SURE THE TECHNIQUE IS IN TGM JUST HAVE TO ID IT. I CAN SEE PAR AND I WILL DO IT, SOMEHOW. EXTENSOR ACTION WAS THE KEY TO THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM AND ACCURACY I NEVER IMAGINED. MY ARMS ARE SO SORE AND SO TIRED! )
Hitting a 7 iron 190 yards is not a strength issue. It's technique.
(FORWARD! THANKS, GUYS! )
PATRICK
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
When I Swing a lot of balls, the only thing that gets anywhere near sore is my Left Hand. And the only thing that really gets work-out-tired is my Left forearm. Not because I am very active with the Left Hand, but because it carries the major part of the load.
When you say that both your arms get sore and tired I take it that your pivot still has room for improvement. At least if you aim for swinging.
Hi Bernt! Thanks for your insights, also, and they are always welcome imho.
Originally Posted by BerntR
Patrick,
When I Swing a lot of balls, the only thing that gets anywhere near sore is my Left Hand. And the only thing that really gets work-out-tired is my Left forearm. Not because I am very active with the Left Hand, but because it carries the major part of the load.
When you say that both your arms get sore and tired I take it that your pivot still has room for improvement. At least if you aim for swinging.
My right arm was sore yesterday, after about 250 balls from "lifting up my left arm with my right." I pretended my left arm was a rope and stretched it like a yellow band right to my ear and kept stretching as I went down as I saw on Alignment I. By the time I got to my driver, I was beat.
Teaching summer school with my group is rather fatiguing.
Which brings me to my next question for this great group of people at LBG: My driver feels so less effective than my other clubs and yet it is so crucial. Even with the courses getting hard with more roll, what are some of the techniques you folks use to maximize your drives?
I will start to vary my practices, now, and not hit quite so many chips with various clubs to get to the driver earlier in a practice. When I travel North to Minnesota, I want to take all the sheckles I can from Kevin and Jerry and then buy them dinner, as if I were a famous, accomplished golfing phenom, which is my current fantasy.
Since I cannot pay an ex wife $750,000,000 , I need to scale my fantasies wayyyyy back!
Patrick
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
I read your stuff on the uncocked left wrist and when done correctly, I can carry a 9 iron almost 145 yards. 
I hope everything else was ok. Not having power really makes a mess of things. 
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