Thrust Relative to Plane

[12 piece bucket]

Isn't the idea to translate mechanics into "feel" and then "make the motion"?

Bucket ("I love you, man"), I don't disagree with anything you've said (you're a genius), but isn't the ultimate goal to be able to simply "Turn it loose". You know,uuuummmmmmmmmmmmmm (Chant)....become "One with the Universe", or as Chevy Chase would say, "Become the Ball".

Sure . . . this is where we need Mike O . . . . he knows something about this junk. BUT . . . the procedure is prior the motion . . . and the motion preceeds the feel. You got many people out here playing by "feel" . . . feel in relation to WHAT? That is why I think the machine is so valuable. First you have the proceedures or patterns listed in 12 . . . BUT you also have the components to BUILD a custom pattern. So you can actually DEFINE the components (hopefully they fit together) but it's up to the player what proceedure the choose . . . but CHOOSE SOMETHING . . . don't just be like "yeah man . . . I'm a feel player." Feel is like a woman . . . the rules change in the middle of the game. As you know the principles are the absolutes . . . they never change . . . their application or misapplication is up to the golfer . . . if advised by the instructor hopefully you get much more than "how did that feel" . . . "you were quick on that one" . . . "swing out to the right to make the ball start to the right". Procedure is hopefully based on an efficent application of the absolutes with each component structured to achieve a defined result or preference. But all that junk orta be known.

[Daryl]

Sure . . . this is where we need Mike O . . . . he knows something about this junk. BUT . . . the procedure is prior the motion . . . and the motion preceeds the feel. You got may people out here playing by "feel" . . . feel in relation to WHAT? That is why I think the machine is so valuable. First you have the proceedures or patterns listed in 12 . . . BUT you also have the components to BUILD a custom pattern. So you can actually DEFINE the components (hopefully they fit together) but it's up to the play what proceedure the choose . . . but CHOOSE SOMETHING . . . don't just be like "yeah man . . . I'm a feel player." Feel is like a woman . . . the rules change in the middle of the game.

Perfect. But I don't know about Mike O. He's become metaphysical about it. I think it has something to do with where he lives and all of those farm animals.

[Mike O]

I live out here where we like John Wayne, Johnny Cash and John Deere!

P.S. I see the 12 piece (wishful thinking dude!) - has threadjacked another thread - against forum rules. - some things just never change.