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Old 09-11-2010, 09:04 PM
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Seems like PGA tour guys are using the pivot, the rolling hands or a combo of both which is the best? Or should one use different ones depending on the length of the shot?

Everyone uses the Pivot. Fast, Slow and everywhere in-between. But Rolling of the Hands? I have two video links posted below. Both of the same golfer who has an exceptionally powerful Pivot.


The First Video is a slow motion side view capture of the "so called - Rolling Hands". Watch this video and observe the Left Wrist Roll through the Impact Interval. Do you call this "Roll"? I call this "Swiveling into Hinge Action". Turn and Roll is the Clubface opening or closing to the Plane Line which is controlled by the Pivots Rotation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=9e-F...eature=related


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is a Slow mo down the line view. Observe his Right Hand #3 Accumulator Roll. It's basically perfect. Paddle-wheel, Hogans underhand pitch, etc.




After comparing your observations, tell me if you still think the same way. Did he Swivel or was his Left Wrist Swiveled by the #3 Accumulator?

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Old 09-14-2010, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Everyone uses the Pivot. Fast, Slow and everywhere in-between. But Rolling of the Hands? I have two video links posted below. Both of the same golfer who has an exceptionally powerful Pivot.


The First Video is a slow motion side view capture of the "so called - Rolling Hands". Watch this video and observe the Left Wrist Roll through the Impact Interval. Do you call this "Roll"? I call this "Swiveling into Hinge Action". Turn and Roll is the Clubface opening or closing to the Plane Line which is controlled by the Pivots Rotation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=9e-F...eature=related


The Second video
is a Slow mo down the line view. Observe his Right Hand #3 Accumulator Roll. It's basically perfect. Paddle-wheel, Hogans underhand pitch, etc.




After comparing your observations, tell me if you still think the same way. Did he Swivel or was his Left Wrist Swiveled by the #3 Accumulator?
WHAT???? This don't look nothing like no Hogan . . . .



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Old 09-14-2010, 05:44 PM
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I came across this one recently ....thought you'd like it Buck if you havent seen it already. Nice, eh?


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Old 09-14-2010, 06:27 PM
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Hey O.B. Look what I found at an Antique Bookstore.

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Old 09-15-2010, 10:17 AM
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Hey O.B. Look what I found at an Antique Bookstore.

Man, thats a find D.

I only have the old abridged version from Reader Digest that deals with "the 12 Piece takeaway" and "swing in a Bucket".

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Man, thats a find D.

I only have the old abridged version from Reader Digest that deals with "the 12 Piece takeaway" and "swing in a Bucket".

Hi oh!
NICE! Just noticed the dig on the cover! Nice work Daryl . . . . .

Ricky F looks like Hogan for a while (minus the Barney outfits) . . . until he turns into a plane line shifting wrist rubber.
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Hey O.B. Look what I found at an Antique Bookstore.

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Old 10-24-2010, 09:44 AM
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Swivel then Hinge (per options in Darryl Post#19)???
Is it correct to say that all (3) hinge actions are prepared for via the swivel motion? AND, that:

Based upon required ball flight, the hinge method is performed through (1)for "vertical" hinge, only an uncocking of the left wrist (clubhead)to maintain an alignment of the clubshaft with the left arm thru and post impact (which actually requires a concious manipulation to prevent any rotation thru impact, (2)for "angle hinging", an uncocking, a rotation of clubface but no required manipulation which allows centrifugal force to naturally align the clubshaft with the left arm thru impact continuing to a clubshaft alignment that is halfway between both arms ("tug of war" style) post impact, and (3) for "horizontal hinging", an uncocking, a rotation AND a concious manipulation to arch the left wrist through impact which "toggles" the clubshaft from an initial alignment with the left arm over to a perfect alignment with the right arm post impact.

Is it wrong to simply decide what clubshaft alignment (left, right, or center from above descriptions) we prefer post impact? Does our right arm flying wedge angle change in any of the above hinges? Is there any other hinge action that we would ever use (i.e. a high bunker shot would we align the shaft with the left arm yet use an arched wrist to achieve a "flip"? Sorry for incoherent rambling (also known as my preshot routine!)
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Old 09-14-2010, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Everyone uses the Pivot. Fast, Slow and everywhere in-between. But Rolling of the Hands? I have two video links posted below. Both of the same golfer who has an exceptionally powerful Pivot.


The First Video is a slow motion side view capture of the "so called - Rolling Hands". Watch this video and observe the Left Wrist Roll through the Impact Interval. Do you call this "Roll"? I call this "Swiveling into Hinge Action". Turn and Roll is the Clubface opening or closing to the Plane Line which is controlled by the Pivots Rotation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=9e-F...eature=related


The Second video
is a Slow mo down the line view. Observe his Right Hand #3 Accumulator Roll. It's basically perfect. Paddle-wheel, Hogans underhand pitch, etc.




After comparing your observations, tell me if you still think the same way. Did he Swivel or was his Left Wrist Swiveled by the #3 Accumulator?
Do you think he would benefit by keeping the right wrist bent a bit longer past impact?
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