Well this thread is making its rounds on the net for the "haters".
I dont think Homer knew it all in terms of ball flight but he knew a heck of a lot more than most, even his wording suggests that he knew there was more to this but could not prove it without more sophisticated study.
The direction of the ball will always be practically at right angles to the Clubface
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Well this thread is making its rounds on the net for the "haters".
I dont think Homer knew it all in terms of ball flight but he knew a heck of a lot more than most, even his wording suggests that he knew there was more to this but could not prove it without more sophisticated study.
The direction of the ball will always be practically at right angles to the Clubface
Who are the hater's and what are they saying? Is the direction of the ball at right angles to the face the same as the d-plane? Can you add more to this.
Who are the hater's and what are they saying? Is the direction of the ball at right angles to the face the same as the d-plane? Can you add more to this.
Nope he said practically right angles . . . to be inferred that it wasn't 100% . . . 2-B talks about the tilting of spin axis of the ball also mentioned in 2-D-O more in 2-E. . . homer understood that all divots were down AND OUT . . See 1-L . . . maybe not exact according to Jergenson . . . but he was certainly sniffing it if he didn't have it.
Nope he said practically right angles . . . to be inferred that it wasn't 100% . . . 2-B talks about the tilting of spin axis of the ball also mentioned in 2-D-O more in 2-E. . . homer understood that all divots were down AND OUT . . See 1-L . . . maybe not exact according to Jergenson . . . but he was certainly sniffing it if he didn't have it.
I think the tilting of spin axis of the ball and the divot been down and out aren't enough for your claim about Homer and the d-plane , from what i have read about the d-plane there is alot more to it than that. Seems a bit of a leap.
I think the tilting of spin axis of the ball and the divot been down and out aren't enough for your claim about Homer and the d-plane , from what i have read about the d-plane there is alot more to it than that. Seems a bit of a leap.
From a practical standpoint, what can the D-Plane concept do for you that 1-L #5 through #17 cannot? Also, on what other basis -- practical or theoretical -- is it superior?
From a practical standpoint, what can the D-Plane concept do for you that 1-L #5 through #17 cannot? Also, on what other basis -- practical or theoretical -- is it superior?
Is the d-plane Homer's work or not? Just a simple question yes or no. That's all i want to know. It is superior in that it is way more complete in all aspects of ball flight theory than anything Homer wrote, like it or not.
Is the d-plane Homer's work or not? Just a simple question yes or no. That's all i want to know. It is superior in that it is way more complete in all aspects of ball flight theory than anything Homer wrote, like it or not.
Mike, who said it was Homer Kelley's work?
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Is the d-plane Homer's work or not? Just a simple question yes or no. That's all i want to know. It is superior in that it is way more complete in all aspects of ball flight theory than anything Homer wrote, like it or not.
No. Wasn't his . . . We're clearly all to hell about it over here . . . hey Lynnard reckon we outta shut the joint down now . . . gameover . .
Keep real boyz it's been fun . . . tell your boys over there it's Dick Cruz . . . spell it right.
From a practical standpoint, what can the D-Plane concept do for you that 1-L #5 through #17 cannot? Also, on what other basis -- practical or theoretical -- is it superior?
There are now two camps, one espousing Kelley’s work the other Jorgensen’s. This is like disputing the value of the chicken over the egg. One is an integral part of the other. One is the machine (1-L #5 through #17) the other the result (D-Plane). Without either both are poorer.
That which increases our understanding of this game should be embraced by all.