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11-08-2010, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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I'm saying that my hands slow because of Throw-out. I don't always have that amount of precision. But when I do, the Hand slows and I'm forced to push a little. I'm not pushing against the #3 PP. I feel the Slowdown with my Right Hand. I'm pushing with the Palm of the Right Hand to resist the Slow-down.
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I think (AGAIN just me thinking) that is exactly it. the trying to keep hands moving. I think that is why Hogan wanted more hands
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11-08-2010, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear
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I think (AGAIN just me thinking) that is exactly it. the trying to keep hands moving. I think that is why Hogan wanted more hands
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Then we're on the same page.  I hope it's the right one. 
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11-08-2010, 04:03 PM
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I love that super heavy inertia feeling.
I push with pp#1. But that's hardly a secret by now
Unfortunately I am not able to pruduce that kind of action on every stroke. Far from it.
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11-08-2010, 04:10 PM
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Thanks for this discussion. I am taking it in and ruminating.
Some time ago I was trying to really stress pp#1 and usually liked the feel as well as the fact I was maintaining my flying wedges and some lag for the first time in my life. Sometimes shots would be a bit to the right and in the beginning that didn't matter since I was striking it so well, but it then became a concern.
Focusing a little more on #3 straightened things out quite a bit and I have been actually hitting more targets, greens especially, than ever before.
Then I noticed my left hand was getting a little too weak and my grip alignments were a little off. If it isn't one thing, its another. I am not complaining though, because now I actually have a bit of a clue what to do to make a correction instead of a compensation.
Geez, I love this TGM stuff.
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11-08-2010, 05:09 PM
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I believe Mr Hogan is describing what we would term Indirect Drive, Inertia , Lag Pressure at the index finger, on the aft of the shaft , associated with Radial Acceleration.
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11-08-2010, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left
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I believe Mr Hogan is describing what we would term Indirect Drive, Inertia , Lag Pressure at the index finger, on the aft of the shaft , associated with Radial Acceleration.
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I can't get that term "Indirect Drive" in my head. Would you help explain the differences between "Direct" and "Indirect Drive" in the Sections below?
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10-11-0-1 PRESSURE POINT #1 (above) is active Power Package “direct drive” (7-11) of Accumulator #1 for actuating the Primary Lever Assembly (6-2-A) for Hitting (10-19-A) as well as Extensor Action (6-B-1-D). It is Loaded (7-22) per 6-B-1-0 and 7-19-1. It is only a passive “direct drive” with any true Swing procedure – Right Arm (7-19) or Left (6-B-3-0) – except per 2-M-3.
10-11-0-2 PRESSURE POINT #2 (above) actuates the Secondary Lever Assembly (6-B-2), normally, only as “Passive Clubhead Lag” (6-C-2-A). It is Loaded (7-22) per 6-B-2 and 7-19-3 and is a Swinger’s Rope Handle application (2-K, 2-M-3).
10-11-0-3 PRESSURE POINT #3 (above) can be either active or passive (6-C-2-A) Accumulator #1 indirect drive (7-11) of the Secondary Lever Assembly (6-A-3) (2-K). That is, actively as Accumulator #2 Axe Handle application for Hitting (10-3-K, 10-19-A) but passively as Accumulator #3 (6-B-3-0, 10-19-C) or with a Right Arm Swing (7-19). Lag Loading (10-19) and Delivery Line (2-J-3) requirements. It is Loaded (10-22) per 7-19 as required by Component 19 application being employed (10-19). Study 2-G and 6-C.
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11-08-2010, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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I can't get that term "Indirect Drive" in my head. Would you help explain the differences between "Direct" and "Indirect Drive" in the Sections below?
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My lnterrpritation- Mover of the primary lever assembly - pp1 or 4-direct drove - pick-up the lagging lever and drag or push is indirect-example might be the "5 yard" interval pressure for partial shots.
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11-08-2010, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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I can't get that term "Indirect Drive" in my head. Would you help explain the differences between "Direct" and "Indirect Drive" in the Sections below?
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Explain indirect and direct in those sections? ......No can do. Homer's got a certain way with words doesnt he? Might need Yoda for that one.
My current state of understanding cant be found in the good book, (which is never a good indicator) but to paraphrase 7-11. ( I wont use quotation marks cause im playing it pretty loose with the words. My apologies).
Power flows from its source (the accumulators) and must be exerted against something (the pressure points) for direct drive of the clubhead through the impact interval. Lag pressure sensed at the #3 or anywhere else since it is a product of inertia only, not thrust, is indirect drive. For its source doesnt flow from the accumulators. It isnt "driving" per say, thrusting. It is however directing and providing sensory feedback for thrust regulation. Geometry and physics combined.
Yoda's gonna puke when he reads this probably.
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