I'm not sure that I have communicated this very well . . .
I'm just basically saying that the right shoulder stays ON TOP of the left arm keeping the left arm down and the hand down . . . if the right shoulder motion is more vertical and UNDER it complies with a steeper plane and or a plane shift . . .
You see this a lot from players who have their body hiding the handle DTL past impact
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Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 12-24-2010 at 04:53 PM.
Thanks everyone. good stuff. I was gettin it together before the cold retired me for the winter. Hopefully when spring comes I will pick up where I left off. Got some good new info to reinforce what I am doing. Plan on hitting gym to maintain those core muscles and stretch til march. Then I will ready to call my teacher golfgnome for some meetups.
I'm not sure that I have communicated this very well . . .
I'm just basically saying that the right shoulder stays ON TOP of the left arm keeping the left arm down and the hand down . . . if the right shoulder motion is more vertical and UNDER it complies with a steeper plane and or a plane shift . . .
You see this a lot from players who have their body hiding the handle DTL past impact
I think I understand what you're saying. The Right Shoulder and Left Arm are aligned, but not to the Swing plane or the swing plane as we typically think of it. And the Shoulder staying on top of the Left Arm is an Alignment that will keep the Left Arm going Down.
I think I understand what you're saying. The Right Shoulder and Left Arm are aligned, but not to the Swing plane or the swing plane as we typically think of it. And the Shoulder staying on top of the Left Arm is an Alignment that will keep the Left Arm going Down.
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I think I understand what you're saying. The Right Shoulder and Left Arm are aligned, but not to the Swing plane or the swing plane as we typically think of it. And the Shoulder staying on top of the Left Arm is an Alignment that will keep the Left Arm going Down.
Sure . . . but look at the location of the HANDLE . . . some raise it up . . . some keep it low . . . I'm saying that shoulders torso or whatever is providing support to keep the handle from raising UP . . no that it's wrong . . . just different . . . keeps the club on the Arc of Approach . . . and on the face of the elbow plane rather than a plane angle shift . . . for instance fowler shifts the angle . . . I don't think Nicklaus in his day really shifted dramatically . . . could be wrong . . . could post pics. Fowler goes low to high . . . Nicklaus just stayed high . . . . Hoch too . . . Furyk is an interesting study because he does all that whacky stuff but once he gets to delivery or slotted or whatever you wanna call it . . . club moves pretty similar to Hogan. . .
I'm not saying this is hitting . . . or swinging . . . I don't know how you catalog it really . . . It seems to be more Arc of Approach procedure-ish . . .
Sure . . . but look at the location of the HANDLE . . . some raise it up . . . some keep it low . . . I'm saying that shoulders torso or whatever is providing support to keep the handle from raising UP . . no that it's wrong . . . just different . . . keeps the club on the Arc of Approach . . . and on the face of the elbow plane rather than a plane angle shift . . . for instance fowler shifts the angle . . . I don't think Nicklaus in his day really shifted dramatically . . . could be wrong . . . could post pics. Fowler goes low to high . . . Nicklaus just stayed high . . . . Hoch too . . . Furyk is an interesting study because he does all that whacky stuff but once he gets to delivery or slotted or whatever you wanna call it . . . club moves pretty similar to Hogan. . .
I'm not saying this is hitting . . . or swinging . . . I don't know how you catalog it really . . . It seems to be more Arc of Approach procedure-ish . . .
I know exactly what you mean bro. The Handle raises but WE think it should stay down. It should stay down. Mine stays down, way down. Keep in mind that it's pretty easy to stay down with my snap release Horizontal Hinge. I'm sure that your right shoulder alignment will help with that but I'm saying that Rhythm and a Flat Left Wrist should do that and the Left Elbow needs to Bend after Impact. So, you can't glue the upper left arm to the chest (compensation) because the Elbow can't bend in time, so, the Handle will Raise when the Left Arm raises. So, I look at this procedure (compensation) and alignments you're referring to as a compensation for a compensation.
Also, you have to keep going down after impact so save some right elbow bend for that purpose. You need bend to have the right forearm on the Angle of Approach for Impact anyway.
I wonder if the Taly would teach that? Travel completely around the Pulley and bend the left elbow before the left arm raises.
I just looked at the video's and the guy demonstrating the Taly keeps his left arm glued to his chest also.
When the Right Shoulder, the #3PP, and the Sweet Spot are married together at Top and move in the same direction in Start Down, the forces are aligned for maximum efficiency. Divergent forces are simply less efficient, but are found all the time on the PGA Tour.
In my own 4 Barrel Hit, the Pivot Drags the Power package toward the Plane Line with a Shoulder Turn Throw (10-20-C). And, I follow with a Right Arm Throw (10-20-B). It feels like I’m throwing a baseball at the golf ball.
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Daryl Added:
Yes......
The Pivot generates the Raw underlying Power either like a Flywheel or, in addition, acts like a Backstop for Right Arm Thrust.
What tells the Pivot where to go?? The Hands should. The Pivot should go where the Hands need it to go and not subjugate the Hands into trying to accommodate the Pivot. The Pivot should Accommodate the Hands. But you can be very successful either way........
In figures 5 and 6, Justin talks about the feel of flattening his back wrist to start the downswing and then angle the shaft handle to the inside quadrant of the ball (elbow in?).
Are we talking about imagining a baseball bat being flung at a real small tee ball?
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