Hogan Right Shoulder Motion Elbow Plane Hitter

[Daryl]

Awesome post Daryl!

Thanks Kev. It sounds plausible. Some of the videos of Hogans swing that were introduced in this thread show a very conspicuous shoulder turn and Right Forearm synchronized rotation through Impact and Follow-through. But, if it is in fact, what Hogan tried to do, then, in my opinion, it isn't more than a newly discovered "Compensation".

[Yoda]

Some of the videos of Hogans swing that were introduced in this thread show a very conspicuous shoulder turn and Right Forearm synchronized rotation through Impact and Follow-through.

Let's not forget that Ben's typical shot was a Fade. He got that Fade by tracing an Open Plane Line, i.e., a Plane Line aimed left of the target.

Normally, the Stance Line is parallel to the selected Plane Line (1-L #19). But Ben often stood Square or even Closed to the Target Line (and thus well to the right of his Open Plane Line). He did this to promote an unrestricted Backstroke (10-12-B).

I'm not relying on hearsay. Nor am I being fooled by misplaced camera angles. I've stood behind the man on the practice tee at Augusta National and watched him hit Fade after Fade from a Closed Stance.

Most observers saw the obvious: he was "swinging left" of the Target -- a motion made even more apparent because of his Stance Line. What they didn't see was that he was deliberately Tracing an Open Plane Line.

And this is how he produced his Fade.

[Daryl]

I didn't realize that. Tracing an Open Plane Line with a Square or Closed Stance does indeed "Look" like Swinging Left.

[drewitgolf]

In addition, Hogan played with clubs that were longer than standard (not sure if this been brought up previously).
A Shorter man with longer clubs that Traces an Open Plane Line.

[Yoda]

A Shorter man with longer clubs who Traces an Open Plane Line.

Uh, yes, that would look "left".



Thanks, Drew. When one is mired in the nebulous world of Position Golf -- as opposed to the precision world of Alignment Golf -- these are the not-so-little details that can (and do) mislead.

[KevCarter]

Great stuff today!

Much like ole Lee Buck. Film him on the target line and he appears to be swinging "left". Film him more to the right on his baseline, he looks more like a "slinger". It IS all in the book if we have a good guide. Thanks Guys!

[O.B.Left]

Let's not forget that Ben's typical shot was a Fade. He got that Fade by tracing an Open Plane Line, i.e., a Plane Line aimed left of the target.

Normally, the Stance Line is parallel to the selected Plane Line (1-L #19). But Ben often stood Square or even Closed to the Target Line (and thus well to the right of his Open Plane Line). He did this to promote an unrestricted Backstroke (10-12-B).

I am not relying on hearsay. Nor am I being fooled by misplaced camera angles. I've stood behind the man on the practice tee of the Augusta National and watched him hit Fade after Fade from a Closed Stance.

Most observers saw the obvious: he was "swinging left" of the Target -- a motion made even more apparent because of his Stance Line. What they didn't see was that he was deliberately Tracing an Open Plane Line.

And this is how he produced his Fade.

What'd happen if you added Angled Hinging to this and the (low within the range of ) Elbow Plane .....with all of the loss of club head travel Angled implies? What'd that look like? Just another alignment?

[Yoda]

What'd happen if you added Angled Hinging to this and the (low within the range of ) Elbow Plane .....with all of the loss of club head travel Angled implies? What'd that look like? Just another alignment?

Hands well "inside" with the Club more "out front"?

Kind of like this?

[gmbtempe]

Let's not forget that Ben's typical shot was a Fade. He got that Fade by tracing an Open Plane Line, i.e., a Plane Line aimed left of the target.

Normally, the Stance Line is parallel to the selected Plane Line (1-L #19). But Ben often stood Square or even Closed to the Target Line (and thus well to the right of his Open Plane Line). He did this to promote an unrestricted Backstroke (10-12-B).

I am not relying on hearsay. Nor am I being fooled by misplaced camera angles. I've stood behind the man on the practice tee of the Augusta National and watched him hit Fade after Fade from a Closed Stance.

Most observers saw the obvious: he was "swinging left" of the Target -- a motion made even more apparent because of his Stance Line. What they didn't see was that he was deliberately Tracing an Open Plane Line.

And this is how he produced his Fade.

That makes sense enough to me..........This is the procedure (open plane tracing from closed stance) I employ but never thought about it like that.

[Yoda]

Pardon the interruption, but I've added substantially to my Post #216 and wish to reprint it here. The edited portions are highlighted in red.

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