Hogan Right Shoulder Motion Elbow Plane Hitter

[david sandridge]

Golly I would also appreciate a link to the "answer" or is it concealed in a secret module

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[Yoda]

Golly I would also appreciate a link to the "answer" or is it concealed in a secret module

Careful there, David. If he tells us, he may have to kill us!

[chipingguru]

I got a team of scientists looking into this, and expect a completely incomrehensible and useless report soon.

[Daryl]

per john "lagpressure" erikson, hogan's procedure of release is not covered in the yellow book.................heh, l am just the messenger. 21 pagers here, and no answer.

Ahhh, must be referring to JE aka "Lagpressure" "CP" Release.

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[Daryl]

I'm worried that this thread is going to end in an abyss of misunderstanding by introducing the "CP Release".

1. The term "CP Release" was coined by Mac O'Grady.
2. It was invented out of a couple of necessities, but foremost, I think it stems from thinking that TGM "Passive Right Arm" means a "Limp and inactive Right Forearm". Which isn't true. I'm referring to the forearm and not a Pressure Point.
3. First: The "CP Release" is essentially, Driving the Right Forearm to the Correct On-Plane Angle of Approach for Impact and keeping the Right Forearm Wedge ( or only the Right Forearm ) moving On-Plane at least until both Arms are straight. Because of "Transfer Power" from the Pivot to the Right Forearm, wherever the Right Forearm goes, the Clubhead will follow.
4. Second: (Issue - Problem) If the Left Arm is held against the Chest (Hogan) and not allowed to Swing Freely during the Impact and Follow-through Intervals, the Right Forearm cannot quite reach nor remain on the correct TGM Angle of Approach.
5. Third: So,,,,A compensation is needed. Namely, the Shoulders must go left in a Horizontal motion at Impact and Follow-through to force the Right Forearm to stay On-Plane. To make this happen, it isn't so hard for the Right Shoulder to go down and then Left because if it stops going down, it's going to come across Left sooner than later.
6. CP Release includes feeling a resistance to centrifugal force pulling the Right Arm Straight. This should be "felt" during any Swing Procedure when the Right Forearm is Driven to the Angle of Approach (Forward) because the Right Forearm is Leading the Clubhead and CF is Pulling the Clubhead On Plane - (Down and Out), AND, CF is pulling on the Right Forearm as well.
7. This "feels" like resisting CF pulling the Right Forearm Straight
8. This leads to the "feel" that you are Pulling (with the right hand) the Clubshaft Left - On Plane (Centripetal Force or CP). However, the reality is that your Right Forearm is simply continuing Down-Plane to Both Arms Straight.

Does this sound like what Hogan did? We'll never know.

When you see a Golfer's Club Swing out to the Right field (above Plane) during the follow-through, you can easily assume that the Ball was struck before the Right Forearm could reach the correct Angle of Approach. But not in all cases, because if you Flatten your Right Wrist during Impact, then the Clubhead catches up the Angle of Approach of your Right Forearm and your Right Forearm begins following the Clubhead.

So, the CP Release isn't actually a "Release" procedure as much as it may be a 'Right Forearm control procedure' when Swinging while keeping your Left Arm Welded to your chest during Impact and Follow-through. The Right Hand controls the Clubhead but the Left Wrist Controls the Clubface. Unless the Right Forearm can get to the correct On Plane Angle of Approach, the Clubface will remain open.

Anyway, just my opinion.

[KevCarter]

Awesome post Daryl!

[Daryl]

Awesome post Daryl!

Thanks Kev. It sounds plausible. Some of the videos of Hogans swing that were introduced in this thread show a very conspicuous shoulder turn and Right Forearm synchronized rotation through Impact and Follow-through. But, if it is in fact, what Hogan tried to do, then, in my opinion, it isn't more than a newly discovered "Compensation".

[Yoda]

Some of the videos of Hogans swing that were introduced in this thread show a very conspicuous shoulder turn and Right Forearm synchronized rotation through Impact and Follow-through.

Let's not forget that Ben's typical shot was a Fade. He got that Fade by tracing an Open Plane Line, i.e., a Plane Line aimed left of the target.

Normally, the Stance Line is parallel to the selected Plane Line (1-L #19). But Ben often stood Square or even Closed to the Target Line (and thus well to the right of his Open Plane Line). He did this to promote an unrestricted Backstroke (10-12-B).

I'm not relying on hearsay. Nor am I being fooled by misplaced camera angles. I've stood behind the man on the practice tee at Augusta National and watched him hit Fade after Fade from a Closed Stance.

Most observers saw the obvious: he was "swinging left" of the Target -- a motion made even more apparent because of his Stance Line. What they didn't see was that he was deliberately Tracing an Open Plane Line.

And this is how he produced his Fade.