Interesting, Mizuno Joe. Hadn't thought of it like that!
Hi Yoda!
I think we'd be astonished by how many people think the clubface acts like the flippers on a pin-ball machine, when in fact, the toe chases the heel of the club around the sweetspot.
I think we'd be astonished by how many people think the clubface acts like the flippers on a pin-ball machine, when in fact, the toe chases the heel of the club around the sweetspot.
That makes sense MJ .....thanks. Effective though Rolling is, its not a little bat or flipper, lever deal per say. Its more about optimal contact. Keeping the point of contact between ball and face intact "as if welded together", no slips or wobbles except for that due to club face loft.
Would you agree? If so what does that do to Hogan's "little bat" or A.J.s "da bat" ? It'd still work but not for the reasons described I guess. Interesting.
While we know that the club rolls along the sweet spot plane in golf, I am not aware of a Homer Kelley type inquirey for swinging a bat. It may be similar or it may not- but should we just dismiss it?
The little bat Im talking about is the face rolling like when you flick your wrister top cheese eh. So the "little bat" so to speak is Rolling, Horizontal Hinging etc. 2-C-1 as opposed to letting the puck just slide or roll off the end of your blade .....
Hey did you see Joe Kapp roll one off Angela's face the other day? 48 years in the making and total compression.
Was watching the Cup and the golf - must have missed old Joe.
I thought you had been discussing Hogan's study of the great hitters of baseball. I was thinking about my glory days and how I used a hitting motion to line one over the short stop or 2nd baseman but used swinging to try to go deep. The ball would slice or hook at times and best of all, my buddies didn't fall to the ground laughing if I wiffed.
I figure if Mr. Hogan thought there was something to be learned from his study, that maybe it was something of value whether zone 1...2 or 3.
That makes sense MJ .....thanks. Effective though Rolling is, its not a little bat or flipper, lever deal per say. Its more about optimal contact. Keeping the point of contact between ball and face intact "as if welded together", no slips or wobbles except for that due to club face loft.
Would you agree? If so what does that do to Hogan's "little bat" or A.J.s "da bat" ? It'd still work but not for the reasons described I guess. Interesting.
Face roll just changes the attitude of the face, I don't see how it could keep contact intact or weld the ball and face.
Ah ha! Now I understand Yoda's reference to "da bat"!
Face roll just changes the attitude of the face, I don't see how it could keep contact intact or weld the ball and face.
Ah ha! Now I understand Yoda's reference to "da bat"!
This the subject we are referring to sustaining the line of compression, if you use angled hinge it produces an uncentered motion inducing compression leakage, keeping the ball in line with it's original contact point is certainly possible! And would in effect weld the ball and face at least momentarily and not literally. I'm not sold on attitude of the face....
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