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Old 03-30-2012, 09:22 AM
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2HBP = two handed basketball pass.

The smaller the pulley, the heavier the ball. I think Hogan used an 8#, if it gets to heavy I lose power. You got to be a giant if you want to make it work right. Pivot power transfer to zone 2?

I may be just rambling, thank god for Homer, Hogan too.

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Old 03-30-2012, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bumpy View Post
2HBP = two handed basketball pass.

I may be just rambling, thank god for Homer, Hogan too.

Bumpy
Thanks to Homer for getting it right when he says no hand effort toward the target, but no thanks to Hogan for his misleading 2HBP illustration in 2L, which 99 of 100 readers will take to mean a horizontal hand/arm effort through impact, i.e. steering, disrupting impact alignments, stifling CF, and distorting the arc of the clubhead.
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
Thanks to Homer for getting it right when he says no hand effort toward the target, but no thanks to Hogan for his misleading 2HBP illustration in 2L, which 99 of 100 readers will take to mean a horizontal hand/arm effort through impact, i.e. steering, disrupting impact alignments, stifling CF, and distorting the arc of the clubhead.


As far as the 2hbp goes, I can see the potential for disruption if using a big pulley.

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Old 04-01-2012, 07:03 PM
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Grips?
As a matter of interest only,Why do club grips have a taper,I mean most putters have flat grips,(sort off)but some early day grips were not tapered..........has this got anything to do with "gripping light",by this mean,..ie..if there was no taper ,one would have squeeze a bit more to hold grip properly imo...not earth moving,purely,interest.......cheers
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:27 PM
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As a matter of interest only,Why do club grips have a taper,I mean most putters have flat grips,(sort off)but some early day grips were not tapered..........has this got anything to do with "gripping light",by this mean,..ie..if there was no taper ,one would have squeeze a bit more to hold grip properly imo...not earth moving,purely,interest.......cheers
B, Imagine a stiff wall stopping your head from moving. Throw against it throwing your hands past your head. I even look at my right shoulder so I can sling the hands using the body only slightly or dropping the right elbow to start the sling. I apologize if I am misleading here as my artificial hip is different than your front hip but those are my feelings. Watch Lynn and how subtle his movement is for the correct flail! Compare it with the problem with head movement! The club does the work!

http://youtu.be/EDNCLchMYRI

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Old 04-03-2012, 11:10 PM
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No kidding that comment screwed me up for years!
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Thanks to Homer for getting it right when he says no hand effort toward the target, but no thanks to Hogan for his misleading 2HBP illustration in 2L, which 99 of 100 readers will take to mean a horizontal hand/arm effort through impact, i.e. steering, disrupting impact alignments, stifling CF, and distorting the arc of the clubhead.
Thanks for the clarity MJ. Brilliant!


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Old 04-04-2012, 01:44 PM
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Thanks for the clarity MJ. Brilliant!


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ICT, the brilliance belongs entirely to TGM.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:22 AM
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Im struggling with release and in need of some wisdom....i have been getting mixed results and indeed mixed distances with my Swinging Pattern,as I getting in to release,I feel that my swing centre is far too early just using the rotating shoulders and gravity,and cent /force,I have been playing with manually getting my R/elbow more into the "pitch"position.
This seems to be getting my hands into a better position for releasing than just using Shoulder/rotation,my pivot feels ok but my swing feels "better" by moving my r/elbow and has the feeling that I pulling the shaft down into release in a straighter line from the top.
Am I doing something wrong by using this action or is it OK?

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Old 04-30-2012, 02:50 PM
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Im struggling with release and in need of some wisdom....i have been getting mixed results and indeed mixed distances with my Swinging Pattern,as I getting in to release,I feel that my swing centre is far too early just using the rotating shoulders and gravity,and cent /force,I have been playing with manually getting my R/elbow more into the "pitch"position.
This seems to be getting my hands into a better position for releasing than just using Shoulder/rotation,my pivot feels ok but my swing feels "better" by moving my r/elbow and has the feeling that I pulling the shaft down into release in a straighter line from the top.
Am I doing something wrong by using this action or is it OK?

Thanks in advanceBM
Try keeping your elbows close together at address and all the way to the top, like Hogan suggests in 5L, and you won't have to move it. Then make sure all the pulling is done by pushing the right shoulder.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:05 PM
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The inert left arm .
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Try keeping your elbows close together at address and all the way to the top, like Hogan suggests in 5L, and you won't have to move it. Then make sure all the pulling is done by pushing the right shoulder.
This is a lost point for most. There is no left arm pull for any strokes that include #4 pivot power. For a Pull Minor Basic Stroke a one accumulator stroke that zeroes the pivot yes you pull the left arm with left arm muscle . But for other strokes the left arm , the #4 accumulator is moved, thrown off , by the pull of the Pivot , the left shoulder specifically since it attaches to the left , which is directed and powered by the on plane push of right shoulder and before it the hips . Assuming ground up, swinging from the feet.

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