Thanks OB,pretty much what Im doing,good call,R./arm chip (for me) has the feel that it becomes easier when I get the feel that I actually "feel" as if Im really getting down to sweet spot plane so long as I concentrate on the palm being the pressure point going down.
The left is a complete different story,the best way that I have come up with is to lift the clubhead over the ball,let it simply travel over the top of ball (toward target) and allow the lever assembly go back to bout waist high(letting shoulder travel be normal)....pivot on downswing allowing clubhead to drop normally into ball the pivot straightens entire lever into finding its own travel,now all this is only a gentle compression action,the follow thru of left assembly is actually quite a high finish for such a small action....if the 2 actions are monitored carefully,a lot of insight comes out of the whole drill........planewise..cheers
Thanks OB,pretty much what Im doing,good call,R./arm chip (for me) has the feel that it becomes easier when I get the feel that I actually "feel" as if Im really getting down to sweet spot plane so long as I concentrate on the palm being the pressure point going down.
The left is a complete different story,the best way that I have come up with is to lift the clubhead over the ball,let it simply travel over the top of ball (toward target) and allow the lever assembly go back to bout waist high(letting shoulder travel be normal)....pivot on downswing allowing clubhead to drop normally into ball the pivot straightens entire lever into finding its own travel,now all this is only a gentle compression action,the follow thru of left assembly is actually quite a high finish for such a small action....if the 2 actions are monitored carefully,a lot of insight comes out of the whole drill........planewise..cheers
The left arm is just very poorly situated to do any big lifting of the club on the backswing .... the right arm however ? No problem. To the extent there is any lifting and there is , it should be done with the Right . (Ideally momentum does most of it... the "no up in the backswing notion" is a great notion but not 100 percent accurate IMO. Homers called it a Right Arm Pickup and it is. While I believe its best to minimize any lifting there is some . And to achieve this , perhaps a rarity amongst golfers ....you need lag and drag on the takeaway . A lagging takeaway morphing into Standard Wrist Action , Lynn Blake style . Momentum created by Zone 1, adopted by Zone 2 and sensed and then used by Zone 3 the hands to effect what Lynn calls Start Up Swivel. The lagging takeaway provides the momentum for Start Up Swivel. Ground /Up backstroke . Inside / out backstroke . Its hard to learn and to put into words BUT PRACTICING STIFF LEFT ARMED ONLY PUSH AWAYS FROM FIX WILL ONLY SET YOU BACK IF YOU WANT A LAGGING TAKEAWAY. Most guys will never ever come close to having one and for them the Carry Back is the way to go if by subconscious default.
You may be able to tell that im preaching like the newly converted.... it wasnt easy. This all relates to the magic of the Wild Bill Melhourne Drill . If you want to get it happening in your actual golf stroke , you need Lag and Drag in both directions. Not so common anymore but it worked for Hogan , Nelson , Jones etc etc and when you listen carefully even Jack describes a sense of Lagging in his takeaway from Impact Fix !!!!! You dont have to be mid body hands , adjusted to sense this Lag in Startup.
Your giving yourself a "running start" with the left is trying to tell you something ! Something that you could easily over look with two hands attached . Try it out. Carry back is ok too obviously.
Can you imagine the people who are now saying there is no such thing as swing plane? I don't know how anyone could do a good job of teaching real world golf swing without it...
Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
After spending such a long period of time NOT being on Plane, I will never accept a concept as no such thing as swing plane. If anyone can channel Mr. Hogan, please ask. I suspect the answer would be short.
Thanks OB,but I located it.........very similar to Macdonalds drill,I believe Lynn likes Macs drills and uses them....thanks
Long answer coming ..... starbucks is kicking in on a Saturday non golf morning.
Re the Wild Bill Melhourne drill.
Its a continuos motion , back and through. Brushing the ground in both directions, three quarter swing , short iron or wedge . Start in tall grass as if you were scything grass with an old fashioned grass scythe ... forget golf . Forget the golf swing. Just let it go , cutting the grass in both directions. Lag and Drag in both directions. Let your body adapt to its natural motion. The motion you would employ if you needed to cut grass all day long. This is the golf motion too! Not that thing we all cook up out of desperation. Then do it on turf . Brush in both directions, Then with a ball.
Dont let the ball screw with your head , dont start Steering again, dont go back to your former golf swing. Try to brush brush brush in both directions and then without stopping without changing anything just walk over to the single ball and let the ball get in the way of your continuous motion.
Keep at it until it happens . What happens you may ask ? One pure , sweetspot on ball connection. Its an eye opener. You will associate Lag and Drag in both directions with pure , sweet contact . You will see how "the motion makes the shot", "the ball gets in the way of the sweetspots orbit ". That impact is not a Station etc etc .
Then line up some balls along the ground and brush , brush brush in both directions while walking and and striking the balls, continuos motion . Just try to brush the ground , dont try to hit the ball .... the ball just gets in the way.
This is the Wild Bill Melhourne Drill. Something I think Hogan was alluding to on his Ed Sullivan show appearance . Something he sorta kinda described in 5 Lessons I believe. There's footage of Fred Astaire dancing and golfing a line of balls from an old movie. He is very clearly Melhourning a line of golf balls . Must of had some lessons from Wild Bill Id imagine. Hogan did.
A lesson from Lynn will have you doing this drill . This is MOTION. The McDonald drills are also all about MOTION. If you build this motion upon a foundation of Homers Alignments you will have Alignments in Motion. Just like Hogan but dug out of the dirt by you. It takes re training for us hacks. The reason we are hacks , is that we "hack" or swing at the ball. Its an easy thing to fall into , even for the best . It has been said that Hogan did a Melhourne like drill in the locker room prior to heading out to the practice ground. Its one heck of a way to warm up.
Brush , brush , brush. The ball just gets in the way. What is it Homer said about impact when he was discussing the Three Stations... "make no adjustment for impact " or something like that. His revelation when wacking weeds in his yard with a golf club relates to this business. His concept of Steering.
McDonald drills are great , dont underestimate them as is very easy to do. Especially for the more accomplished golfer . McDonald himself said exactly that in his book. McDonald drills with a Wild Bill line of balls and HOmers alignments will open you to a new world. Those alignments while critical are often manipulated in a wooden manner ..... dont do that! That's not what Lynn teaches. That not how Lynn teaches. Thats not how the game is played at its highest level. See Hogan , Rory! Alignments in motion with a Top and a Finish and Lag and Drag in both directions.
Now to your on plane motion notion. This motion creates the sweetspot orbit , not vice versa . Is it a single plane of motion? Probably not . Is there a big shift either up or down ? Ideally not but you have options. Certainly Hogans shift while easy to see wasnt that big in terms of degrees really when viewed from down the line. Does Lynn teach with Plane devices? Ive never seen one personally. Perhaps that would interrupt motion....... Now if you were way off plane , that would require a mechanical correction. Some detection and correction. Over swivelling in startup or finish .. say . Horizontal left hand motion etc. Those things fall under the Alignments category.
Interestingly .... Ive found good motion does tend to promote good alignments. If you lose it on the course and dont know why..... stick to motion, hit your finish like Rory , stay in balance , do some McDonald drills and wait till you get back to the range to fix your mechanical problem ... See your pga pro!
..... starbucks is kicking in on a Saturday non golf morning.
Swinging the Clubhead? Switch to Orange juice.
I agree that many of the Macdonalds drills promote good actions. This Drill isn't one of them. Swinging the Clubhead is treating the Golf Swing as a Pendulum System. The Golf Swing is a Lever System. The Backstroke and Downstroke are very different.
I agree that many of the Macdonalds drills promote good actions. This Drill isn't one of them. Swinging the Clubhead is treating the Golf Swing as a Pendulum System. The Golf Swing is a Lever System. The Backstroke and Downstroke are very different.
What are you talkin aboot? Wild Bill Drill ? McDonald exercise? I did say that it was common for guys to underestimate them, especially the more accomplished golfer. McDonald said this in his book.
Dont prove him right D!
Wild Bill Drill (WBD) worked for Hogan .
When Im waiting for my turn to take a shot . I sometimes walk over to the heavier grass (if im not in it) and WBD some brushes in both directions. Next shot is always a corker .
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