Because of your shorter front leg you should be playing below Par. But, from your post I can tell that you're twisting your legs and using that as your Backstroke Hip Turn (that's not in the Book). So, your knees are out of Alignment and Twisted all about and your only hope to shift your weight has been to use a stack and tilt type lateral move toward the Target to get your weight to move to drive (actually, it would Pull) your right shoulder. Why go through so much work? So much struggle?
Why not allow your Hips to turn and your weight to shift by bending your knees rather than Twisting them? That way, you can "LOAD" your Right Foot during the backstroke and turn your hips to initiate the Downswing using your right leg as a backstop (not launching pad) and your weight will shift at the appropriate time (about a millisecond before impact). See Ben Hogans book, "Five ways or something". Or, March in Place with your feet apart, knees bent and bend from the Hips. Then, your Hips will Turn, weight will shift, but your knees won't Twist. TGM.
It's unfair that you have a shorter left leg because it means that gravity will assist your weight shift and you'll be more powerful going through the Ball. You should give strokes to your competitors. When Obamacare finds out that it helps your game, they'll charge you more.
I'd feel bad if your Right leg was shorter.
Daryl's Helpful Tip: Load your Right Foot before you Load the #3 PP.
Because of your shorter front leg you should be playing below Par. But, from your post I can tell that you're twisting your legs and using that as your Backstroke Hip Turn (that's not in the Book). So, your knees are out of Alignment and Twisted all about and your only hope to shift your weight has been to use a stack and tilt type lateral move toward the Target to get your weight to move to drive (actually, it would Pull) your right shoulder. Why go through so much work? So much struggle?
Why not allow your Hips to turn and your weight to shift by bending your knees rather than Twisting them? That way, you can "LOAD" your Right Foot during the backstroke and turn your hips to initiate the Downswing using your right leg as a backstop (not launching pad) and your weight will shift at the appropriate time (about a millisecond before impact). See Ben Hogans book, "Five ways or something". Or, March in Place with your feet apart, knees bent and bend from the Hips. Then, your Hips will Turn, weight will shift, but your knees won't Twist. TGM.
It's unfair that you have a shorter left leg because it means that gravity will assist your weight shift and you'll be more powerful going through the Ball. You should give strokes to your competitors. When Obamacare finds out that it helps your game, they'll charge you more.
I'd feel bad if your Right leg was shorter.
Daryl's Helpful Tip: Load your Right Foot before you Load the #3 PP.
Won't turning my hips back and through simply throw me out over the Base Line of the Plane? Marching in place is simply lifting my heels- will try that but I could not keep my balance very well
when Lynn showed me that. RFT then belly button turn since I can't feel my artificial hip? or is it just planting the left heel?
ICT
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Because of your shorter front leg you should be playing below Par. But, from your post I can tell that you're twisting your legs and using that as your Backstroke Hip Turn (that's not in the Book). So, your knees are out of Alignment and Twisted all about and your only hope to shift your weight has been to use a stack and tilt type lateral move toward the Target to get your weight to move to drive (actually, it would Pull) your right shoulder. Why go through so much work? So much struggle?
Why not allow your Hips to turn and your weight to shift by bending your knees rather than Twisting them? That way, you can "LOAD" your Right Foot during the backstroke and turn your hips to initiate the Downswing using your right leg as a backstop (not launching pad) and your weight will shift at the appropriate time (about a millisecond before impact). See Ben Hogans book, "Five ways or something". Or, March in Place with your feet apart, knees bent and bend from the Hips. Then, your Hips will Turn, weight will shift, but your knees won't Twist. TGM.
It's unfair that you have a shorter left leg because it means that gravity will assist your weight shift and you'll be more powerful going through the Ball. You should give strokes to your competitors. When Obamacare finds out that it helps your game, they'll charge you more.
I'd feel bad if your Right leg was shorter.
Daryl's Helpful Tip: Load your Right Foot before you Load the #3 PP.
Upon getting home from school, I busted out the impact bag and a couple clubs. I RFT'd and really sat on my right knee letting it bend quite a bit. I contrasted the Both Arms Straight (BAS) positions using a dowel first though. When separating my left knee the hands really lay back and the BAS position is only slightly forward of the left hip and the hips were only slightly open at impact. In contrast, after loading the right knee and planting the left heel, the BAS position is much further forward with a full Horizontal Hinge, the hips are much more open, and there is and a much more vigorous Forward Swivel.
Will test this out with the warmer weather this weekend and report back.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
D you forgot 1-L whatever. Its the Thrust not the hands or their path that goes down and out to Both Arms Straight. Even though the clubhead is coming In and Up post low point. This is a major thing to my mind.
The Hands also move in accordance to their centre. If the left shoulder as the centre of the left arms travel is raising so does the left hand regardless of where it is vis a vis low point.
If a school clock was positioned higher on a wall . The low point for the minute hand would still be 6 o'clock but the hight off the ground of the furthest extension of the minute hand would be higher... ah ...all analogies suck.
What the heck is the bucket drill? Where is Bucket anyways.
I don't want to be argumentative. Nice if we're able to have a stress free discussion. This forum pertains to "On Plane Motion Practice" so knowing the Planes, how to coordinate them and what the meaning of Down-ward, Down and Down-Plane will be useful.
But. Chapter 2 has good info on this subject.
The Circle.
When you have an Orbit (Circle) Down-Out-Forward is one direction and In-Up-Back is the other direction. But, the circle didn't determine the direction, we do, by reference. We say, we're going this way or that way.
If the Clubhead while Orbiting could talk, it would say "hey man, I'm going around in a circle".
point of origin of centripetal force?
Kinetic link-point?
I must need either a translator,or a torch so people can see what Im posting,centripetal force?
Kinetic link?
there are diverging forces happening here,all on the one plane...yes no....
I must need either a translator,or a torch so people can see what Im posting,centripetal force?
Kinetic link?
there are diverging forces happening here,all on the one plane...yes no....
cf is generated by the pivot. It is on plane. Swinging is all management of cf.
The 3 esentials- Balance, Rhythm and a stationary "head" are essential (they are a rank above imperative) although they are seldom discussed, practiced and even less understood.
There are volumes in the 2 sentence fragments I put above
I must need either a translator,or a torch so people can see what Im posting,centripetal force?
Kinetic link?
there are diverging forces happening here,all on the one plane...yes no....
Ok, so a Reactive Force Un-cocks the Left Wrist. No big deal. Is that all CF does? Yes, I think so except for some residual forward momentum. And the more you emphasize Velocity over Mass, the more it counts. But that's another subject, and trick.
Time to toughen up. Golf is a Power Game.
We don't hit the Ball with CF unless you use a 10-2-D grip to Un-Cock along the Swing Plane. For Swingers, the Plane of the Left Wrist Cock not only "Turns" from Release to Both Arms Straight, but the Primary Lever is Swiveling during this same period.
How On Plane can that be unless the Wedges are aligned at 90 degrees?
So, unless you're using a "Driving Right Forearm" there will always be some off Plane tendency, somewhere along the process.
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10-19-C DRAG LOADING Drag Loading is the Rope Handle Technique of the “Swinger,” an out-and-out PULL, striving to accelerate the Clubshaft lengthwise, from a quick Start Down to Release. Start the Club down as though it were being drawn from a quiver like an arrow – feathered end first. Maintain this motion until the Release switches ends. This is possible only if, and for as long as, Inertia can hold the Clubhead inside the arc of the Hands or hold to a Line Delivery Path (2-L). Centrifugal Force will set in when the Clubhead crosses to the outside and it will begin to pull into its own incidental orbit per 2-P and 2-K#5. Then further acceleration can be applied only at Pressure Points #1 to support the Pull on the Clubshaft – especially for Short Shot Power.
Develop an “Instant Acceleration” Hip Action (to the desired Hand-speed per 10-15-B) so that the Throw Out Action (6-B-3) can immediately set up the Rhythm and take over the rest of the Downstroke sequence (6-M-1). See 2-K and 6-F-0. With or without Wristcock, always Drag (Pull 10-3-D) a swinging Club Down Plane – even with only Centrifugal (Angular) Momentum (2-K) See 10-23-C.
For Clubhead Throwaway prevention, monitor the pull of Centrifugal Force and Drag of the Lagging Clubhead.
So, Whats the Clubhead (or Club) reacting to? Easy. It's reacting to the Left Arm being Blown off the Chest while using a Pivot Stroke or in the case of a non-pivot Stroke, Left Arm Motion. For Pivot Strokes, see Homer Kelleys explanation below. I underlined.
The Kinetic Link.......................................... is Very Important because if for one instantaneous moment the link is lost, lower MOI. Bold by Daryl.
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6-B-0 GENERAL Force is applied to the Ball through the Lever Assemblies. Power is applied to the Lever Assemblies through Pressure Points. Power is applied to the Pressure Points by Power Accumulators. Power Accumulators are out-of-line conditions of the Power Package Components. Out-of-line simply means “not in a straight line from end to end.” Releasing them to seek their in-line condition releases their stored potential. Varying the amount of out-of-line and/or the amount of muscular effort will vary the accumulation of Power that can be Released by the selected Triggering action. Accumulators are numbered in the order of their probable widest use in Stroke Type Combinations.
Clubhead Lag (6-C) is, of course, and out-of-line condition in the Power Package but is not considered an Accumulator because its “Release” is a power loss. Again, Lag and Drag in the Pivot train (6-M-1) are out-of-line conditions also (but not of the Power Package) and likewise are not “Released.” Else the Swing Radius of the Stroke would be shortened – which is also a power loss. Swing Radius is what makes it harder to get a balanced 20 foot board around a corner than a 5-foot board. A hanging Driver weighs less than one pound, but at arms length the deltoids (2-M-3) are supporting about four pounds – considering the arm weight as negligible. But with arm and club parallel to the ground, the Wrist is supporting close to six pounds and the deltoids about ten. From the Feet the total moment of Inertia increases proportionately to Pivot Lag. So the Clubhead (or Primary Lever Assembly) whose Swing Radius extends to the feet is much harder to decelerate during Impact. Which means better Clubhead Speed at Separation. See 2-E.
Anytime you Accelerate the Club Longitudinally, you'll earn "Throw-Out" if you're going around in a circle. With a Flat Left Wrist at Release, there's not much of it, just enough to help the #3 Accumulator do the dirty work to "Wallop the BAll" . Now, if you play with a Bent Left Wrist at Release, then Cf is much more significant and the residual momentum is much greater and the #3 Accumulator will passively go along for the Ride.
Watch the Pro's. When you see Super Fast Pivots compared to s-l-o-w-e-r Pivots with the same output power, the Slower Pivot Players are Driving the Right Forearm through Release. Nothing wrong with a Fast Pivot. They're very different Pivots and ground forces.
Ok, so a Reactive Force Un-cocks the Left Wrist. No big deal. Is that all CF does? Yes, I think so except for some residual forward momentum. And the more you emphasize Velocity over Mass, the more it counts. But that's another subject, and trick.
Time to toughen up. Golf is a Power Game.
We don't hit the Ball with CF unless you use a 10-2-D grip to Un-Cock along the Swing Plane. For Swingers, the Plane of the Left Wrist Cock not only "Turns" from Release to Both Arms Straight, but the Primary Lever is Swiveling during this same period.
How On Plane can that be unless the Wedges are aligned at 90 degrees?
So, unless you're using a "Driving Right Forearm" there will always be some off Plane tendency, somewhere along the process.
So, Whats the Clubhead (or Club) reacting to? Easy. It's reacting to the Left Arm being Blown off the Chest while using a Pivot Stroke or in the case of a non-pivot Stroke, Left Arm Motion. For Pivot Strokes, see Homer Kelleys explanation below. I underlined.
The Kinetic Link.......................................... is Very Important because if for one instantaneous moment the link is lost, lower MOI. Bold by Daryl.
Anytime you Accelerate the Club Longitudinally, you'll earn "Throw-Out" if you're going around in a circle. With a Flat Left Wrist at Release, there's not much of it, just enough to help the #3 Accumulator do the dirty work to "Wallop the BAll" . Now, if you play with a Bent Left Wrist at Release, then Cf is much more significant and the residual momentum is much greater and the #3 Accumulator will passively go along for the Ride.
Watch the Pro's. When you see Super Fast Pivots compared to s-l-o-w-e-r Pivots with the same output power, the Slower Pivot Players are Driving the Right Forearm through Release. Nothing wrong with a Fast Pivot. They're very different Pivots and ground forces.
There is SOOO much that should be discussed in this post!
As a start- THINK ABOUT "CF" as the ONLY source of power for the swingers power package. THE ONLY SOURCE OF POWER!!!!!
Maybe we should have another new thread for this discussion?? BUT it is all about "on-plane motion"
(that's not in the Book). So, your knees are out of Alignment and Twisted all about and your only hope to shift your weight has been to use a stack and tilt type lateral move toward the Target to get your weight to move to drive (actually, it would Pull) your right shoulder. Why go through so much work? So much struggle? 
RFT then belly button turn since I can't feel my artificial hip? or is it just planting the left heel? 
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