How can one wedge Roll without the other doing same ? Wouldnt you have to reform your grip to pull that off. Go from 90 degrees say to more than 90 in terms of the relationship of the two wedge planes.
Assuming a two Vertical , palms facing each other grip type : I see the Hands as Turning (or being turned by Pivot ) on the Backswing , Rolling on the Downswing , the wedges doing same. 90 (or whatever you set at Fix) staying fairly constant.
Daryl's drill with the bucket indicates that straightening the right arm (if correctly aligned) can hinge the left arm (from the shoulder hinge point), the handle goes from parall to the plane line to perpendicular to the plane line.
Daryl, One point not clear to me. Where do U position the red dpts and what orientation should they maintain?
HB
One Dot on the outside of the Left Hand and the other on the inside of the Bent Right Wrist.
During Release, you'll see that the Left Wrist Rolls, its Dot goes from facing the Target Line to Facing the Target. You'll see that the Dot on the Inside of the Right Wrist Faces the Sky at Release and Still Faces the Sky at Impact, On-Plane Right Forearm Wedge.
The Left Wrist Rolls, the Right Wrist Doesn't.
The Handle Swivels from the Bucket. So the Bucket Drill removes the Release Swivel Action from the drill so that "Turn and Roll" while the Right Forearm seeks its Angle of Approach to Low-Point can be observed in isolation.
One Dot on the outside of the Left Hand and the other on the inside of the Bent Right Wrist.
During Release, you'll see that the Left Wrist Rolls, its Dot goes from facing the Target Line to Facing the Target. You'll see that the Dot on the Inside of the Right Wrist Faces the Sky at Release and Still Faces the Sky at Impact, On-Plane Right Forearm Wedge.
The Left Wrist Rolls, the Right Wrist Doesn't.
The Handle Swivels from the Bucket. So the Bucket Drill removes the Release Swivel Action from the drill so that "Turn and Roll" while the Right Forearm seeks its Angle of Approach to Low-Point can be observed in isolation.
Thanks Daryl.
I agree because I can see.
I would like to extend the disuussion of release on the plane to include a piece on "sequential" release.
The interpretation held by Most, is that #2 is released with the left hand flat to the plane then teh left hand is swivled into horizontal hinging and #3 (formed by the residual #2) is "rolled" through impact. I BELIEVE THIS TO BE AN IMPROPER INTERPRETATION of HK "sequential release".
I have mentioned this before and had some PM discussion -part Of which I include below.
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Originally Posted by HungryBear
A thought on roll;
If the roll to the vertical left-horizontal hinge alignment is early the total roll is only about 30-35 degrees. If the left is held on plane until #2 is released the left roll is almost 90 degrees and must be accomplished in a very short time and distance. this alone is problematic for a repeatable swing.
HB
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Not quite- We are not communicating - BUT - we are in pm so please let us get this on the same page because I see it as important.
Experiment: First with the left hand only - Flat left, clubface.
Take your flat-vertical- (cocked if U like, that will not change the clubface geometry at this point)
Go to address- backswing flat left to top- back of hand points across plane line 90 deg and at horizon.
TURN left hand to plane. 4-c-2. hand/clubface is on plane.
No we will come down 2 ways- Both will use 4-c-3 roll.
First -I will call this the BAD way - slow motion swing by sliding your hand flat down the plane, at about waist hight start to uncock the left (that is #2 ) if it was BUT keep your flat hand on plane. now just before impact, look at your hand on plane- You must roll 4-c-3 to vertical for impact. NOTE; the roll 4-c-3 must be almost 90 degrees and it occurs in a very short portion of the swing.
Second- I will call this GOOD way - slow motion swing by sliding the left hand down the plane- But - allow/cause the flat left to roll - 4-c-3 so that it is vertical at hip level. 2 points here. the 4-c-3 roll required was only about 30-35 degrees (on the plaqne to vertical) AND YOU are now in the horizontal hinge with a verticalo club face.
This can let the shaft stay on plane and you can use all the cf U can find- The clubface remans unfer the control of FLAT LEFT HAND.
Any speed, any power, any length, the second experiment repeats. over and over.
I can do experiments eith the right that compliment the left and OBEY HK rules.
As I believe the sequenced release is realy a "trigonometric" or proportional rate function and is completely on plane- with NO CORNERS or swivels dividing #2 from #3 release
Your thoughts. ?
HB
ps. Only 4 posts to go to catch O.B. ,
HB
Last edited by HungryBear : 11-29-2012 at 12:03 PM.
Daryl's drill with the bucket indicates that straightening the right arm (if correctly aligned) can hinge the left arm (from the shoulder hinge point), the handle goes from parall to the plane line to perpendicular to the plane line.
And with the Top of the Bucket remaining "Level" to the ground.
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