Not changing the ball flight...reread...changes with different ball flights...If the horizontal axis of the eyes are parallel to the plane line...it's easy to "trace" a straight plane line...If the horizontal axis of the eyes rotates to the clockwise ..so does the hand path and plane line tend to like to shift cross-line right.....likewise a counterclockwise rotation of the horizontal axis of the eyes the tendency for the hand path and plane line to shift cross-line left...
"The golf swing begins and ends with the eyes and the hands"....Mac O'Grady
Looks like Tiger's spine is closer to the target in frames 3 & 4? Then the patented Bobbing. But Eldrick's got MAJORs and Bucket's got a MAJOR addiction to chicken and taters. So what can you do?
We've got the same addictions, Bucket. I hope the new year brings you 13 pieces of chicken in every bucket.
Advanced class:
As far as the bobbing goes, his right forearm position at address, even as a swinger, leaves few options. Read 7-3 until you wear out the ink on the page. Pay close attention to "Mandatory" and "Always, for all procedures." If the forearm position is "out-of-line" and assembles to become "in-line", something else has to change. Call me crazy, but simply changing someone's head doesn't address Loading and the Right Forearm. However, I do agree that he shouldn't have to look down his cheeks at the ball. He seeks the same "in-line" relationship that all great players seek (secondary lever system in support of the primary lever system with normal force), but you'll never see anything that resembles it at address.
Remedial class:
right arm start straight
right arm bend to hit ball
right shoulder get close to ground
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Last edited by YodasLuke : 12-30-2005 at 09:17 AM.
Not changing the ball flight...reread...changes with different ball flights...If the horizontal axis of the eyes are parallel to the plane line...it's easy to "trace" a straight plane line...If the horizontal axis of the eyes rotates to the clockwise ..so does the hand path and plane line tend to like to shift cross-line right.....likewise a counterclockwise rotation of the horizontal axis of the eyes the tendency for the hand path and plane line to shift cross-line left...
"The golf swing begins and ends with the eyes and the hands"....Mac O'Grady
Not changing the ball flight...reread...changes with different ball flights...If the horizontal axis of the eyes are parallel to the plane line...it's easy to "trace" a straight plane line...If the horizontal axis of the eyes rotates to the clockwise ..so does the hand path and plane line tend to like to shift cross-line right.....likewise a counterclockwise rotation of the horizontal axis of the eyes the tendency for the hand path and plane line to shift cross-line left...
"The golf swing begins and ends with the eyes and the hands"....Mac O'Grady
"That's what Pat Browne always told me"--- Brian Manzella
You all obviously don't know who Pat Browne is. Better do your homework. I think Brian just "moongotchad"
My set up was poor and I had a lot of mis-matched components. With TGM I learned how to set my head and right forearm position using impact fix. I also learned that mixing hitting and swinging components generally make things more difficult than they need to be.
The only debate I see is the willingness to follow Homer, his teachings, his reccommendations, and his variations in their purest form with component variations to follow. OR, one can choose to ignore his suggestions.
I have no problem teaching the appropriate finish swivel as explained in the book. It's not my own creation.
Hey Ted,
I cannot agree more with you.
Disagreeing with Mr Kelly is like:
1)Saying that you can develop a better law of thermodynamics.
2)Saying that you could have developed a better law of electricity.
3)Saying that you could have developed a better law of gravity!!! (how about that!)
Pat Browne is a 22 time blind golf national champion....his mind has long been in his hands
Guess the only plane line he sees is in his mind ...Still has "Vision" whether or not it's physical...The Mac O'Grady quote was his...NOT MINE!!!
Besides..Blind or Not The Head and Neck Position influence the Hand Path ...Period He may not a have eye sight ..but I bet he's got fluid in his ears.....remember the balance centers not only include the eyes..but the ears and the muscular system as well.....
Last edited by annikan skywalker : 12-30-2005 at 10:24 AM.
We've got the same addictions, Bucket. I hope the new year brings you 13 pieces of chicken in every bucket.
Advanced class:
As far as the bobbing goes, his right forearm position at address, even as a swinger, leaves few options. Read 7-3 until you wear out the ink on the page. Pay close attention to "Mandatory" and "Always, for all procedures." If the forearm position is "out-of-line" and assembles to become "in-line", something else has to change. Call me crazy, but simply changing someone's head doesn't address Loading and the Right Forearm. However, I do agree that he shouldn't have to look down his cheeks at the ball. He seeks the same "in-line" relationship that all great players seek (secondary lever system in support of the primary lever system with normal force), but you'll never see anything that resembles it at address.
Remedial class:
right arm start straight
right arm bend to hit ball
right shoulder get close to ground
Teddy-Ballgame,
On the 12th day of Christmas my true love gave to me buttermilk soaked cajun fried bucket with thirteeeeeeeeen pieces!!!!
7-3 Truly is MAGICAL . . . so reconciling what you have positioned above without a down the line picture of Eldrick's address alignments. You are saying even as a Swinger Eldrick should set up with more bend in his Right Elbow thereby placing the Clubshaft and Right Forearm in the same plane i.e. Right Forearm Flying Wedge assembly at Address? This would solve the old Bobbing problem?
I like where you are headed with this . . .
7-3 STROKES BASIC . . . . With this “in-line” relationship of Loading and Right Forearm, it is absolutely MANDATORY that, Hitting or Swinging, it is the Right Forearm – not just the Right Hand and/or Clubshaft – that must be thrown, or driven, into Impact per 7-2-3. And study 7-11. ALWAYS, for all procedures, the Right Forearm is position “On Plane” – pointing at the Plane Line as the Angle of Attack (2-N). The On Plane Right Forearm shows the precise up-and-down direction it and the Clubshaft must take throughout the Stroke (2-J-3). The “Angle of Approach” position of the Right Forearm shows the precise Cross-Line direction the Forearm must take through Impact.
And just a lil'bit mo . . .
Even with the Pitch Basic Stroke. So the Right Forearm must leave – and precisely return to – its own Fix Position (7-8 ) “Angle of Approach” (regardless of the true Clubhead Angle of Approach) because both procedures will produce identical Clubhead Delivery Lines.
Thanks man.
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