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The only debate I see is the willingness to follow Homer, his teachings, his reccommendations, and his variations in their purest form with component variations to follow. OR, one can choose to ignore his suggestions.
I have no problem teaching the appropriate finish swivel as explained in the book. It's not my own creation.

Hey Ted,

I cannot agree more with you.

Disagreeing with Mr Kelly is like:

1)Saying that you can develop a better law of thermodynamics.
2)Saying that you could have developed a better law of electricity.
3)Saying that you could have developed a better law of gravity!!! (how about that!)