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Old 09-09-2007, 10:30 PM
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What swings the clubhead?
How does a hitter get the clubhead swinging? Doesn't hitting out
with the right arm push the club shaft?
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Old 09-09-2007, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottgas2 View Post
How does a hitter get the clubhead swinging? Doesn't hitting out
with the right arm push the club shaft?
A Hitter moves the clubhead just like a Swinger- by sensing the Pressure Points with in his Hands. You feel the Lag Pressure- not the clubhead. The secret of golf- I heard Lynn talk about this the other day- is sensing (and knowing how to use it) the Lag Pressure in the Hands during the stroke.
Hitters should be very aware of PP1 and PP3. Swingers should be aware of PP2 and PP3.

Yes, the Hitter, who has more control of his stroke then a Swinger, drives the entire club- grip, shaft and clubhead- into impact. Each accumulator arrives onto and through the LOC at the same time. Clubhead moves just fine, btw.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:58 AM
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What moves a club head? I think is a trick question by itself... The wrist directly "moves" or powers the club head which causes Throwaway.

We want to move the handle of club using Elbow Power + Pivot Power for Hitter. Which translate into Forearm + shoulder throw.

The handle/hand is leading the elbow/forearm for hitting the other way round for swinging. The right shoulder becomes a back wall for the elbow power ( hitting). For hitting, it feels more like you need to Stress Load the handle ( thus called Drive Loading, the handle is driven and pushed) .. for swinging it feels like Pulling the handle and the grip/shaft doesn't feel as loaded ( the handle or hands is being pulled, ie. DRAG Loaded).

Thus the application PP like what Mike mention becomes useful as it is where the pressure points connects , communicate and apply the power/ direction.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:55 AM
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Would I be correct in saying....
As a hitter I drive my pressure points through the ball(using my right arm)
making sure I do not allow the lag I have created to leave my
hands until the ball is well on it's way.
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:02 AM
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Yes. Very accurate.

The PP will subside once the accumulators is expended. ie both arm straight.
But the pivot still moves thus there is still some pressure until there is no movement.

Also, the hitter have to concentrate on the bend right wrist.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottgas2 View Post
How does a hitter get the clubhead swinging?
1. Pivot rotation or sliding or both
2. right arm straightening and pushing
3. right wrist unbending + left wrist bending
4. the combinations of the above.

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Doesn't hitting out
with the right arm push the club shaft
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YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn.
Bend the shaft.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:16 AM
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Re: Minor edit - name mis-spelled - Barclays posts/video
Originally Posted by nicklin View Post
Would I be correct in saying....
As a hitter I drive my pressure points through the ball(using my right arm)
making sure I do not allow the lag I have created to leave my
hands until the ball is well on it's way.
Pressure Points drive the Lever Assembly (direct-active) and maintains the Lag Pressure (indirect-passive). Depending on the Accumulator and PP combination, one PP is assigned to maintain Lag pressure. This is true for both Hitters and Swingers. Each stroke must assign a PP to maintain Lag Pressure.

In your example, PP3 maintains Lag Pressure as Acc1 drives against PP1 to move the club and Lever Assemble.

More often than not, PP3 maintains Lag Pressure in either full stroke.
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bts View Post
1. Pivot rotation or sliding or both
2. right arm straightening and pushing
3. right wrist unbending + left wrist bending
4. the combinations of the above.

Yes.
Did you REALLY mean 3. above
-we don't want the left wrist bending- nor the right wrist unbending.
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Old 09-11-2007, 06:07 AM
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I did.
Originally Posted by neil View Post
Did you REALLY mean 3. above
-we don't want the left wrist bending- nor the right wrist unbending.
I intend to unbend the right wrist (for pushing the grip against the clubhead lag) coming down, although the clubhead lag (or shaft flex) is too great to be overcome by the action and the right wrist still looks bent prior to or at impact. After impact, however, it is not!
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YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn.
Bend the shaft.

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Old 09-11-2007, 08:34 AM
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I intend to unbend the right wrist (for pushing the grip against the clubhead lag) coming down, although the clubhead lag (or shaft flex) is too great to be overcome by the action and the right wrist still looks bent prior to or at impact. After impact, however, it is not!
I'm having trouble seeing how unbending the right wrist pushes against clubhead lag. I can only see how unbending the right wrist would actuate a throwing motion of the clubhead. I seems with a proper grip, pushing against clubhead lag would actually cause/maintain bend.

And if your intent is to unbend the right wrist, would it not be in the flattened conditioned at finish? I'd say for most good players that I see, yes the right wrist may tend to flatten at some point, but at finish it is back to bent. If the mind's intent was to flatten the wrist, I'd think that it would tend to stay in flatten condition.
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