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Old 06-23-2006, 11:26 PM
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Probably the most amazing tour player I have seen play is Mr. Charlie Owens. He was injured in the service, and went on to play the tour, and Senior Tour.

Charlie plays CROSS-HANDED, he is BLIND in one eye, and one of his knees is FUSED. He uses his club as a cane to walk up to the ball, then unleashes on the ball, and strikes some very, very nice golf shots. He won two Senior Tour events.

Amazing!!

He also is probably one of the first players to use a long putter, if not the first. I believe he invented the model he used/uses.

I believe my information is correct, if not maybe someone can chime in.

I could not find any current information on Mr. Owens.

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Old 06-24-2006, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by lagster

Probably the most amazing tour player I have seen play is Mr. Charlie Owens. He was injured in the service, and went on to play the tour, and Senior Tour.

Charlie plays CROSS-HANDED, he is BLIND in one eye, and one of his knees is FUSED. He uses his club as a cane to walk up to the ball, then unleashes on the ball, and strikes some very, very nice golf shots. He won two Senior Tour events.

Amazing!!

He also is probably one of the first players to use a long putter, if not the first. I believe he invented the model he used/uses.

I believe my information is correct, if not maybe someone can chime in.

I could not find any current information on Mr. Owens.
Charles Owens was an outstanding African American golfer who last competed on the now Champions Tour in 1998. He played his best golf long before today's inflated purses, but his official money of $710,167 is still good for 165th place on the Champions Tour All Time Money Leaders list. He was runner-up in the 1985 Senior Tournament Players Championship, and in 1986 had his best year with two victories and official money of $207,813. He played sparingly after 1994.

Charlie's tournament results and stats for the years 1980-1998 can be found by clicking on http://pgatour.com/players/stats/471478/1998 and entering the years desired in the left hand 'search' box.
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:34 AM
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How about Eamon Darcy
I was watching Eamon Darcy at the Irish Seniors in Fota a few weeks ago and he was striking his iron shots beautifully.

Not a method to copy but whatever he does he manages to deliver the club face square to the ball consistently and powerfully.

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Old 07-21-2006, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Seanmx
I was watching Eamon Darcy at the Irish Seniors in Fota a few weeks ago and he was striking his iron shots beautifully.

Not a method to copy but whatever he does he manages to deliver the club face square to the ball consistently and powerfully.
Which makes him AMAZING!!

How the heck can he do what he is doing and have such awesome results???

Can anyone describe his pattern?
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Old 07-22-2006, 04:16 AM
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Those movements are unorthodox for everyone else in the world but are 'his' orthodox movements. Repeat what you can, no matter how you do it, in your own way,BUT fulfil the laws of physics and geometry at IMPACT and you got it. EDUCATE THE HANDS!!!!!!

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Old 07-22-2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Vikram
Those movements are unorthodox for everyone else in the world but are 'his' orthodox movements. Repeat what you can, no matter how you do it, in your own way,BUT fulfil the laws of physics and geometry at IMPACT and you got it. EDUCATE THE HANDS!!!!!!

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No question about it. Thanks Vic and will do.

I am new to TGM and believe wholeheartedly in the 3 essentials and 3 imperitives, the 3 functions and the 3 stations. I'm just not that good yet with patterns.

Just a question,tho. Do you mean that unorthodox swings cannot be described as a pattern? Or were you just saving me from a major headache?

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Old 07-23-2006, 03:01 PM
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A swing may be unorthodox by way of what it looks but as long as the movements can be sychronized to produce ideal impact alignments is what makes it effective. All swings have component variations and no swing is perfect. They all have visible 'flaws', some more,some less. But they all are capable of winning majors if their owners can repeatedly get into proper impact alignments ( Furyk,Floyd,Couples,Daly to name a few).

I see a load of instructors trying to get players into alignments that they cannot acheive for many given reasons. Maybe they are not physically capable or have ingrained off aligned movements through their years of play. The result is a frustrated student and a 'bad' instructor, though the instructor may mean only well in what he wants to impart to his student. There is a copybook swing which every one wants to emulate and teach but I think it is humanly impossible to acheive. All swings have their variations and no two individuals swing alike and THAT IS A FACT. Also no golfer swings nearly the same swing twice in his golfing life. And thats why there are a zillion ways to swing the club but only one effective way to hit the ball - succumb to the laws otherwise suffer.

Thats the beauty of TGM when one can understand the essentials and imperatives and just inculcate the importance of those into their students coconuts - success and improvement is INEVITABLE. It works for ALL my students and I guess we all teach one species - Homo sapien' so it should work all over the world too.

No doubt it becomes easier to acheive impact alignments easier if the swing gets closer to copybook alignments and thats what all instructors and students work to acheive - BUT is it possible for 99% of golfers to acheive what their instructors want them to. Afraid not. In my experience ,if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion.

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But what is the teacher left with if not a textbook example to ask their students to emulate? The reason IMO that the Couples and Dalys of the world are successful is their raw talent-something that weekend hackers can not develop.

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