OB. Here are some drawings to help clarify. But just understand that fanning and extensor lift up are simultaneous. The deltoid muscles perform both motions. The combined motion is like that of a bent over deltoid fly with a bent right arm moving up, away and back simultaneously.
NOTE: That the on-plane right forearm and the Top of swing right forearm have the same bend except that the top of swing forearm has an additional one inch bend for cocking the left wrist. Hackers will have a very bent right arm at the top of the swing. The first bend (95% of total combined bend), which establishes the swing plane is determined at impact fix.
This is the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. The Right Forearm and Club are on the same plane. Do you see the amount of Yoda’s Elbow bend? What do you need to do, to raise the forearm and club off of the plane? Answer: Bend the Elbow.
So, bending the elbow raises the right forearm and club above the plane. Homer Kelley said that the Right Forearm of every hacker come into impact too high. Hackers bend their elbow too much and raise the club above the plane. They have very little flexibility. They need to bend the elbow to raise the left arm to look like a golfer.
I feel really bad for you. An inch or two is all that is needed to cock the Right Wrist. You still have all of that elbow bend that you had at impact fix. Add both together and your right arm is bent at an approximately 90 degree angle.......
Ok?
Dont feel sorry for me. Its you Im worried about.
Ok 90 degrees I can see. One man's non bending elbow is the same mans 90 degrees of bend. Ouch. How the heck do you insert smilie faces?.......
Now the hitters are happy since that is what they cock and load. This was my main concern. The hitter with a non bending right elbow?
Now, don’t ever (unless it’s a trick shot) move your right elbow in a sawing motion again unless its during release.
The Elbow is guided by the right shoulder and left arm.
The Right Elbow is never in control of anything and especially the left arm. The left arm checkreins the right forearm from unbending(and thereby moving the hands away from the left shoulder) and the Right Shoulder controls the raising of the left arm……….
Im Bewildered? You just noticed this now? Who isnt when reading TGM?
I never said "elbow saw". Gave that up with One Plane.
Magic of the Right Forearm, that cryptic but enticing bit of business. I welcome any insight into this topic and invite others to jump in. Please.
Daryl but if "the Right Elbow is never in control of anything , especially the left arm" as you say, then why did Homer say as much in regard to the Magic of the Right Forearm?
Per 7-3...." Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will RAISE AND LOWER the left arm". Caps by Homer by the way. One of you guys is totally crazy or maybe both and soon maybe me too.
Great information there...thanks! I tried and gave me a better on plane look in video. One more question...
Does the "tee/towel under armpits drill" violates the "right deltoid raises the left arm"?
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
This is the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. The Right Forearm and Club are on the same plane. Do you see the amount of Yoda’s Elbow bend? What do you need to do, to raise the forearm and club off of the plane? Answer: Bend the Elbow.
So, bending the elbow raises the right forearm and club above the plane. Homer Kelley said that the Right Forearm of every hacker come into impact too high. Hackers bend their elbow too much and raise the club above the plane. They have very little flexibility. They need to bend the elbow to raise the left arm to look like a golfer.
Daryl those drawings were a lot of work. Thank you. Im with you but not so sure about the Extensor Action, Fly. I was thinking of the right forearms move as described by Yoda in Alignment Golf, the Indian Chiefs "how" or the Pledge of Allegiance type deal.
As far as the Right Forearm Flying Wedge photo goes I see the table top as a representing the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend throughout the swing regardless of right elbow bend. Only at some points in the swing will the RFFW be on the Inclined Plane as well. So yes elbow bend would take the forearm off the table but only if you assume the table to be the inclined plane as opposed to the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend. Per 6-C-3-0-1. "...the Right Forearm and Clubshaft are ....positioned on the plane of the right wrist bend AT RIGHT ANGLES TO THE LEFT ARM PLANE. That is the precision assembly of the power package basic structure and is mandatory during the entire motion. Hitting or Swinging..."
Daryl you are learned and very well read. I am a Range Rat and information assimilator with one goal in mind.........to hit it better. I care not for debate on a subject I feel ill equiped and unworthy of intellectualizing. My position is really just stuff I have gleamed right here mixed with my own misconceptions and experiences. Experiences gained over a life time of Golf addiction.
I will go a few more rounds if you wish but only as long as you are entertained and Im learning something. Me making a mash of other peoples ideas and concepts is only a disservice to the other people reading this stuff.
But this is a topic that interests me. I need to simplify my takeaway. So lets cut to the end scene where we all walk happily down the fairway with our new found Magical Right Forearm startups. But who can tell us what that is?
How's the upside down dumbell fly move working for you? Are you working out?
Im Bewildered? You just noticed this now? Who isnt when reading TGM?
I never said "elbow saw". Gave that up with One Plane.
Magic of the Right Forearm, that cryptic but enticing bit of business. I welcome any insight into this topic and invite others to jump. Please, please, please.
Daryl but if "the Right Elbow is never in control of anything , especially the left arm" as you say, then why did Homer say as much in regard to the Magic of the Right Forearm?
Per 7-3...." Bending and Straightening the Right Elbow will RAISE AND LOWER the left arm". Caps by Homer by the way. One of your guys is totally crazy or maybe both and soon maybe me too.
Ob
Don’t worry about me either. I’ve always been high strung. I just had one of those light bulb flash moments. Ya know, everything makes more sense and everything in the book is seen in a new light.
Ya, I know what you mean about the right elbow. I always had the idea that I was supposed to tell the elbow where to go, keep the elbow on plane, the forearm isn’t on plane until the elbows on plane. But now, I think I've got a handle on it and writing it out in the posts helped ingrain it.
Maybe everybody uses extensor action that way, I don’t know, maybe I understand things better when I go at it at a different angle or something. I feel really confident in my understanding of the golfing machine. Better than ever. But, I've said that before.
You know whats weird? Here we are two middle aged guys who've spent most of our lives thinking about golf and neither of us really knows how the club gets over our right shoulder......
What kind of insanity is this? There's probably somebody logging on for the first time whose reading this and thinking he'd better get the heck out of here and quick. "Those TGM guys are whacked, dude .........just take your right wrist to shoulder height man, WTHeck."
You know whats weird? Here we are two middle aged guys who've spent most of our lives thinking about golf and neither of us really knows how the club gets over our right shoulder......
What kind of insanity is this? There's probably somebody logging on for the first time whose reading this and thinking he'd better get the heck out of here and quick. "Those TGM guys are whacked, dude .........just take your right wrist to shoulder height man, WTHeck."
You know whats weird? Here we are two middle aged guys who've spent most of our lives thinking about golf and neither of us really knows how the club gets over our right shoulder......
What kind of insanity is this? There's probably somebody logging on for the first time whose reading this and thinking he'd better get the heck out of here and quick. "Those TGM guys are whacked, dude .........just take your right wrist to shoulder height man, WTHeck."
I tell people it's my Hobby. I'm old enough to have a Hobby.
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