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Old 05-04-2009, 05:07 PM
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The Pro’s, if they only knew. Shoulder Turn/Torso Turn Take-away.

It’s a lot easier to make a good start than a good recovery.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:35 AM
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WILL someone be nice enough to explain what this means,and how to accomplish it


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One important aspect of 'accomplishing it' is to know what's 'behind' it - literally! The left thumb is behind the shaft, PP#1 is behind the shaft, the three fingers of the left hand (PP#2) are behind the shaft and finally PP#3 is behind the shaft.

To mix my metaphors, thats where the rubber meets the road.
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:36 PM
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Is dragging the mop feel best suited for "swingers" and not so much for "hitters"? Or is it a good feel for both?
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:56 PM
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Drive the Wet Mop
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Is dragging the mop feel best suited for "swingers" and not so much for "hitters"? Or is it a good feel for both?
Hitters should substitute the phrase "DRIVE the wet mop."

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Old 05-26-2009, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy R View Post
One important aspect of 'accomplishing it' is to know what's 'behind' it - literally! The left thumb is behind the shaft, PP#1 is behind the shaft, the three fingers of the left hand (PP#2) are behind the shaft and finally PP#3 is behind the shaft.

To mix my metaphors, thats where the rubber meets the road.


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Andy,
you say the left thumb is behind the shaft. I am having a hard time grasping that. My grip has the left thumb just to the aft side of center on top of the shaft at address. Does the "feel" of PP1 move behind the shaft as you begin down because the left arm is turned some? Or is it taken literally that the left is always behind the shaft at address etc..I saw Yoda talk about this in his DVD's which I have also, just not in too much detail.

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Old 05-26-2009, 09:24 PM
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Andy,
you say the left thumb is behind the shaft. I am having a hard time grasping that. My grip has the left thumb just to the aft side of center on top of the shaft at address. Does the "feel" of PP1 move behind the shaft as you begin down because the left arm is turned some? Or is it taken literally that the left is always behind the shaft at address etc..I saw Yoda talk about this in his DVD's which I have also, just not in too much detail.

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I can totally relate to your confusion.

'Drag the mop' refers to an Impact Feel.

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Old 05-26-2009, 11:03 PM
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right I have seen the vid, it appears #1 is behind the shaft at impact because it looks left the FLW is angled as you can see the back of his glove and not just a vertical left wrist.

Yoda has said that with a FLW that the left thumb is behind the shaft, just want to make sure I am getting it right.

Tonight, I was playing with the grip some, sliding that left thumb a little over to the right some more, This did allow me to really feel that thumb in the lifeline of the right hand a whole lot more than ever.
At the webbing my thumb and first finger were still together, but the thumb was apart a little more down below.
I have always had that left thumb on top of or just a hair away from the center of the shaft.

I just want to make sure I am not missing out that PP#1 sensation

thanks for any help
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:34 PM
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BTW, joeunc, are you a swinger or a hitter?

PP#1 is used exclusively for hitting.

Anyways, with regard to the left hand grip, it is specific to each individual.

Let your left arm hang at your side (which is low point) and keeping your body and left arm completely still, place the club in your left hand with the heel pad (Thenar muscle) on top of the grip and the clubface perpendicular to the target line, and you will have YOUR perfect left hand grip.

You should always align your clubface at low point, BTW, which will result in the clubface being slightly open at address. (Although, of course, less and less so the ball moves forward.)
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Old 05-27-2009, 02:21 PM
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thanks, that would put it a little stronger that what I have had in the past. I am trying to be a hitter. I am new to TGM, but I do have Yoda's DVDs and have learned a lot. I do basic motion and acquired with a right arm thrust or at least I try to make it that way. Only thing is, I have been setting up at impact fix. I have been setting up at adjusted address ball middle to slight forward. I use Ben Doyles setup routine. I started my own thread on the grip and PP#1 so as not to threadjack here, if you want to reply in that one.
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Old 05-28-2009, 03:25 PM
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Hitters should substitute the phrase "DRIVE the wet mop."



I love this. Hitting and Swinging arent necessarily that different.

Unlike the Swinger the Hitter gets no free ride courtesy of CF and left arm throwout. So the hitter must create his own Lag with a continuos, steady application of Right Arm Thrust at PP1. Once he stops thrusting, the lag subsides. Thrust all the way down to Both Arms Straight. You can only drive the wet mop as long as the right arm is in the process of straightening. Once its straight its over. This requires some help from the right shoulder to ensure you dont run out of right arm too early. Leaving the right shoulder back in Startdown will cause to run out of right arm earlier.......good for a short put or chip maybe but not a driver.
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